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  • User AvatarJam { Hi Jacqueline (Bible Student) The Sanhedrin was not really concerned with Jesus claiming to to be God's son or God, because the Babylon the Great... } – Dec 07, 1:05 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks David. Yes, the act of gay sex is a choice, just as the act of adultery is a choice. However, gay feelings, depending on... } – Nov 14, 7:53 AM
  • User AvatarDavid { Being gay IS a choice! Just as one chooses to take other immoral courses. When we choose to commit adultery, its a choice, when we... } – Nov 02, 3:53 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Tim - I imagine your have had some significant personal negative experiences with the JW Organization. What positive lessons have you learned from this experience?... } – Nov 01, 6:59 AM
  • User AvatarTim { The governing body are nothing more than leaders of this cult Jehovahs Witnesses....this organization is infested with petifles,I challenge folks to wake up Research...Google Jehovahs... } – Nov 01, 12:03 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Hank. Good questions. Your interpretation are more literal and that is fine. It is up to each of us to try to come to... } – Oct 26, 8:02 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Glad you enjoyed it Br. David. I agree it is an excellent book and well researched. } – Oct 26, 5:20 AM
  • User AvatarDavid Aldridge { Excellent book! } – Oct 26, 2:53 AM
  • User AvatarHank { Isaiah 43:10 CEB You are my witnesses says the LORD. 13 From the dawn of time, I am the one. No one can escape my... } – Oct 24, 4:56 PM
  • User AvatarHank { To Peter. As you learn more you will get that answer. Let me know what Joshua 10:12,13, Ecclesiastes 1:5 and Habbukuk 3:11 mean to you.... } – Oct 24, 4:48 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Marilyn. Would you like to share your experiences with the JWs and what you learned? } – Oct 22, 11:06 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hank - I am no expert on flat earth, so I do not want to contradict you. How is it that Antarctica has six months... } – Oct 22, 11:05 AM
  • User AvatarMarilyn Albert { Brilliant. As a former JW, it never entered my consciousness that we were praising these fools. } – Oct 22, 12:20 AM
  • User AvatarHank { The earth is flat unless you believe the earth is spinnings 1000 miles in a circle why the earths going around the sun 66,600 miles... } – Oct 21, 3:48 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { DJ - Thanks for your warning. Please elaborate. Not sure what you mean. We believe what the Bible teaches. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (ESV) "9 Or... } – Oct 04, 4:51 AM
  • User AvatarDJ { This talk was an terrible! The bible is clear about homosexuality. Just like it is clear about adultery and fornication! I fear that the Bible... } – Oct 02, 6:51 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi Bro. David. I hope all is well with you. } – Sep 07, 9:54 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi Raj, Would you say that in every instance in the New Testament that the Greek word Kurious refers to Yahweh or Jehovah? Are there... } – Sep 07, 9:54 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Genesis 1:27 (AV) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.... } – Sep 07, 9:45 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Nigel - Great to hear your comments. I agree with your statement "I, myself, place greater importance on personal relationship with God than organized religion."... } – Sep 07, 9:40 PM
  • User Avatar { Jehovah so loves the 🌎 world. What does the Bible mean let us make man in our image. Christ and God made man. First God... } – Sep 06, 10:17 AM
  • User AvatarRaj { The Greek word Kurios referred in Romans 10:9 is the Greek equivalent to the Hebrew word Yahweh or Jehovah? } – Sep 05, 10:22 PM
  • User AvatarDavid Aldridge { I personally communicate with one of the brothers in this group! } – Sep 05, 6:38 PM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { To be news God calls "good" it will be beyond even our most positive attempts to broaden the salvation. It is doubting men who must... } – Sep 05, 1:37 AM
  • User AvatarNigel Goh { • First time to come across your group. I send you love and wish you peace and safety. • I, myself, place greater importance on... } – Aug 31, 9:53 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Ryan - Thanks. Yes, you make a good point. Noah and the Animals could have simply moved out of the flood zone. } – Aug 31, 8:04 PM
  • User AvatarRyan Vinter { No. There really was a global flood that is pretty clear in the bible. There may of been a sea or 2 or 3 but... } – Aug 30, 8:07 AM
  • User AvatarBrian Andrew Kutscher { Br. Edward Lorenz was a young boy, but I don't know in what year this took place. He and his father were in Bullock's Department... } – Aug 25, 10:34 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks MilkyWay. You are of course welcome to share your thoughts from your studies here. I agree with you that "The choice has to be... } – Jul 02, 3:54 AM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { Revelation 14:6-7 states "from the Kingdom" everyone will be given the choice if they want to live. The choice has to be our own as... } – Jun 30, 7:59 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi 091268. You asked "did Russel shun. people?" No, he did not. This link explains how the Bible Student Association was set up in Brother... } – Jun 19, 2:01 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi 091268. I am very sorry to hear that you are disfellowshipped. Bible Students do not practice shunning ever. Where is "shunning" taught in the... } – Jun 19, 1:44 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hello 091268. It is nice to hear from you. I understand that you follow "Jehovah's Organization" probably based on scriptures in the Gospels that talk... } – Jun 19, 1:30 PM
  • User Avatar091268 { good talking to you all i only talk about bible and religion. on this channel. if i go back to kingdom hall i may stop... } – Jun 19, 12:12 AM
  • User Avatar091268 { I love Jehovah more then my own flesh. and i love living and i love my flesh. the governing body is a group of people... } – Jun 19, 12:02 AM
  • User Avatar091268 { hi i do not always agree with every thing governing body does but they are in charge. all governments and church and kingdom halls has... } – Jun 18, 11:18 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Fluffy, Glad to hear from you. I enjoyed reading your well reasoned comments. As I carefully read your comments, I started making notes of questions... } – Jun 05, 5:23 AM
  • User AvatarFluffy { Hello everyone. Some of you point to Jehovah's Witnesses, in one way or another, as not being Jehovah's people / nation / organization as they... } – Jun 04, 12:18 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Nathaniel - The link is up on YouTube. You can get it from the site or here: } – May 31, 5:36 PM
  • User AvatarNathanial { Hello, are there any alternative ways of viewing this video? I'm very interested in seeing it, but Flash player doesn't work any more. } – May 29, 3:00 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Searching, Thanks for your question. Here are just some of the differences. We beleive... 1) Jesus dies a RANSOM for ALL (1 Tim 2:4-6), meaning... } – May 23, 5:46 AM
  • User AvatarSearching { Although I haven't read all of what is on the website here, I'm not yet seeing any difference in what you believe and what JW's... } – May 22, 5:43 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Br. Laban - I am glad if it can be a blessing. You are welcome to download it. You can download from YouTube at this... } – Mar 22, 7:37 PM
  • User AvatarLaban Ssewanyana { Dear Brother Peter Karava. Thank you for this beautiful work. Could you please make a provision to allow me download this video so I can... } – Mar 22, 1:00 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks MilkyWay - Some good thoughts you had. I agree that our relationship is directly with the Father through his Son Jesus Christ. When Church... } – Feb 23, 5:01 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Jehovah is called God in the New Testament. Are you comfortable with either Jehovah, Yahweh and/or God? } – Feb 22, 7:43 PM
  • User Avatar { You should be called by his name jehovah } – Feb 15, 1:04 AM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { I agree. Like Jesus said to the Pharisees that they shut up the Kingdom before men, like WT they try to narrow the salvation by... } – Feb 14, 10:25 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks MilkyWay. As we have found, there is NO scriptural evidence that everyone except for Jehovah's Witnesses will be destroyed in Armageddon, nor that those... } – Feb 14, 11:54 AM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { I understand that aspect too. WT is unique today in cult scale, and the indoctrination with a fake doomsday has ultimate control objectives in the... } – Feb 11, 10:50 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { MilkyWay - Our biggest concern is when an organization is so controlling that its members do not have the Christian liberty to honestly question teachings... } – Feb 04, 4:18 AM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { In the theory, with other WT symbols weaved into their graphics, is that they are a "33" controlled organization. 33 is the highest managerial order... } – Jan 31, 12:48 AM
  • User AvatarSeeker { Hello, I recommend a study of the “Song of Moses” to see how this key prophecy influences the understanding of all the other prophecies concerning... } – Jan 29, 3:18 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi MilkyWay. I am not sure I understand the significance of J being the tenth letter of the alphabet and W being the twenty third... } – Jan 27, 5:21 PM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { Why is J=10 and W=23 alphabet positions also 33 "dot org" or "JW" dot org? Imo, it is a mix. Since the time of Judas,... } – Jan 27, 3:44 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks friend. Yes, I agree there is no connections. We are willing to discuss honest criticism, however anyone who claims a connection with Freemasonry has... } – Jan 17, 12:13 PM
  • User AvatarM { There's no connection between Freemasonry and JW's. This taken from Massimo Introvigne book, “Freemasonry and New Religious Movements,” [«Ελευθεροτεκτονισμός και Νέα Θρησκευτικά Κινήματα»], pp./σσ. 306-318,... } – Jan 16, 7:57 AM
  • User AvatarChris J { Hey Rodrigo, Yes our numbers are going down. We believe it is due the bride being complete. The Truth is not for the world during... } – Jan 04, 3:58 PM
  • User AvatarLeonard A Dressler { Yes I was a Ministerial Servant and the Building Project of I was involved in to the point of Seeing out of code building Let's... } – Dec 02, 9:02 AM
  • User AvatarRR { Back in the 90s I was contacted by one of their leaders. They found my website and began corresponding with me. They are of course... } – Nov 26, 9:16 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi Roy - Some Bible Students have had friendly contact with this group. Our main focus of course is our own personal relationship with our... } – Nov 24, 8:53 AM
  • User AvatarRoy { Not much affected, since they are another group, and they have very little presence in Russia, way less than the JW's } – Nov 20, 9:37 AM
  • User AvatarRodrigo Gallegos { Yes, I also discovered that, I find it really interesting since this group has been dropping in numbers as they don't preach in the same... } – Nov 20, 9:35 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Annelie - Thanks. That is an excellent questions! It is great to have a deep thinker of scripture to have a discussion with. Let me... } – Sep 25, 8:03 AM
  • User Avatarannelie williams { am i missing something?...a resurrection,means you have to die first,before you get resurrected,and only then is it possible,to die a second death,unless you are of... } – Sep 24, 9:54 PM
  • User Avatar { Thank you Richard for your reply .will get back about family name . } – Aug 07, 2:42 PM
  • User Avatar { Thank you Rolando for your reply . } – Aug 07, 2:41 PM
  • User AvatarJohn ship { Thank you Peter for your reply .I will get back to comment on some other doctrines.i do favour the Bible students for their kind responses... } – Aug 07, 2:40 PM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Hello John,I was a JW For over 40 years in Australia.I found the Bible Students in 2010,& Have never Looked back since!We have Bretheren all... } – Jul 30, 12:29 AM
  • User AvatarROLANDO RODRIGUEZ { Hi John, as Peter mentioned, Bible Students are not dogmatic when it comes to certain beliefs. These are things or subjects that YOU have to... } – Jul 29, 9:03 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks John. I am glad you are open to the Christian liberty of personal Bible study and honest freedom of thought. Your studies on Michael... } – Jul 29, 12:42 PM
  • User AvatarJohn ship { I am faded out of jws after 50 years in the of the main reasons is the way Jesus has been pushed out and... } – Jul 29, 12:04 PM
  • User Avatar { There is a man who is telling the truth. } – Jul 13, 8:08 AM
  • User Avatarterry lawton { I guess you didnt feel the need to reply Roy.... Psa 146:3 - it would do you well brother to read it. } – Jul 11, 6:36 AM
  • User AvatarROLANDO RODRIGUEZ { Doug, the Watchtower would expect complete obedience when you join. in fact before baptism, you will sit down with the elders while they ask you... } – Jul 08, 4:44 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { RR, I see what you mean about that. I am scared that if I would get into the JW I would get disfelloshipped early on.... } – Jul 06, 6:36 AM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { RR, Thank you for providing insight on that. Doug } – Jul 06, 4:55 AM
  • User AvatarRR { Doug, those "141 rules" are not Jehovah's Witness rules that you will find in any of their publication. They are rules that some former JW... } – Jul 05, 6:53 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { RR, I sent you my email address. Doug } – Jul 03, 7:49 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { RR, I meant rules like the 141 rules of the JW. Where they try to run your life. Doug } – Jul 03, 7:30 PM
  • User AvatarRR { Doug I don't have your e-mail, but you can e-mail me at } – Jul 03, 2:10 PM
  • User AvatarRR { Hi Doug, may I ask where these "rules" are? As already mentioned. Bible Students as a whole do not have rules to abide by. We... } – Jul 03, 1:31 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Thank you again. That is great to know! Right now I am searching for a Bible Student group to be a part of and maybe... } – Jul 03, 9:17 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { No Doug,The only rules we have are in Gods word, "All scripture is inspired" If it is not in gods word,then we cannot invent rules... } – Jul 03, 7:47 AM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Richard, Thank you very much for this! I did not realize that. I have another question. Do you know if the Bible Student Movement different... } – Jul 03, 4:59 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Hello Doug,Welcome from Australian Bible Students.The Bible students have just released a new Bible called the RVIC(Which Stands for revised version Improved & corrected)Bro Peter... } – Jul 02, 6:41 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Thank you for the info. Does anyone know what the best bible to use and read for this belief? } – Jul 02, 5:00 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Doug - Bible Students do provide baptism services which are requested and planned for in advance. Most who have become Bible Students are baptized again... } – Jul 02, 10:20 AM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Thank you Peter for the email. I work M-F during the day. I do have a question, can one be baptized into the bible student... } – Jul 02, 6:48 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Doug - Rolando as a former JW and researcher knows a lot. You are also welcome to give me a call. I will email you... } – Jul 02, 4:41 AM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Hello Peter K. and RR, A rep. from the central Ohio group,, did get in touch with me today and he said there are... } – Jul 01, 5:00 PM
  • User AvatarRR { I rolled my eyes at every meetings, too often from the podium. LOL } – Jul 01, 4:39 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Doug - is based in Ohio and if you contact them, they should be able to direct you to the nearest study group. However,... } – Jul 01, 3:33 PM
  • User AvatarRR { Hi Doug, There are Bible Students in the Ohio area. Not sure about Loveland/Cincinnati. I could check, I know we have brethren in the Columbus... } – Jul 01, 2:43 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Hello. I am very interested in the Bible Student beliefs and believing in Jehovah in this way. I just do not want to join the... } – Jul 01, 5:14 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Interesting RR. I did not know that. By todays JW Organization standards, the older JW organization had been demonstrating apostate behavior by providing the old... } – Jun 26, 9:01 AM
  • User AvatarRR { Yes, 1927 was the last edition published by the society. However the Society continued to offer the volumes well into the 1960s. Throughout the 1930s,... } – Jun 25, 7:05 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Sr. Sharon G. We have lot's of evidence of an earthly kingdom in various scriptures. Revelation 21 seems clear that the New Jerusalem comes down... } – May 31, 8:59 AM
  • User Avatarsharon g { Jeff, we have an xJW in our class who wanted NEW testament scripture that said anything about the New Jerusalem being on earth as well... } – May 29, 2:29 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { You can find "Ask Jaqueline" at } – Apr 28, 9:43 AM
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  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s

    THIS IS A FACT. Vol IV pages 544,545, three times it ask who this army is. He had it wrong back then and after he went to hea en the leaders had it wrong for another 104 years. Referring to Joel, and the army Jehovah was going to use.

    Here is where it is funny. The first sentence in April study WT has Charles Russell’s name in it.

    So if we take it from ctr,s beginning st it took almost 150 for the correct understanding come about.

    Wow!!! This is why people who left ctr and others miss out.

    Praise Jehovah as his light keeps getting brighter.

    • Christopher Johns

      So his light got brighter on 1925? 1975, Evaul slave class? Faithful servant was all anointed? Organ transplants are cannibalism? 1914 was “this generation” and “overlapping generation” Jonadabs? Israel? Ruth-Estger class? Thw scapegoat being the bible students?

      Hmm sound more like wandering in darkness to me.

      Why dont you try to read the volumes and stop looking for errors in them. We dont hold to the volumes like y’all do the WT magazines.

    • Christopher Johns

      Why dont you google the Australian Royal Commission when Geoffrey was on the stand and said that its presumptuous to believe that only you have the truth.
      Jehovahs word said that nothing covered wouldn’t be uncovered. Man did it shine in the WT and expose all the pedophiles and false doctrines.

    • Christopher Johns

      I’m going to leave this hear. It’s clear your whole intention is to be correct. I was a JW so I know your mentality. You want the last word so you can go off being puffed about about having been correct. You did this on Facebook too. Yes I remember.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    Ad in back of book



    Herald of Christ Presence

    This journal should regularly visit all who have the slightest interest in the topics in this and the other volumes of the Scripture Studies. It is issued twice a month, 16 pages, at one dollar (4s.) a year in advance.

    I always wonder did my Grandfather and Grandmother get any of the books when on the farm. For many colporture hit the farms. Will have to wait till the resurrection to find out.

    • Christopher Johns

      We hand out tracts and have witnessing booths and we have many traveling brothers and sisters that visit all over the world. We are a little flock and when the bride is complete we will raise the world of mankind and will have all to be enlighted bu the truth.

  • Dave

    Here are some verses ctr uses on page 528 VOL IV.
    Rev. 16:14; Zeph:3:8 ;Isa. 13:4; rev. 16:18; Heb. 12:26.
    All the proud and all that do wickedly shall be stubble, and this fire shall burn them up. It shall leave them neither root nor branch. Mai.4:1

    Happily you and I can say were happy he was wrong on the timing, or we never would have lived . And no need to criticize him as he was ahead of his time. Yet those prophecies still have to be fulfilled.

    Page 616 He is off on the folliwing.
    We have seen that the period of our Lord’s presence from 1874 to 1914 is a harvest time, the earlier part of it for gathering his elect bride, and the latter part a time of trouble ,for the overthrow of present institutions, in preparation for the new Kingdom.

    Think if we had the internet back then. They would have web sites going after him just like happened today with the judge.

    Read some stories of Russell’s follows, even in other countries. One from Norway touched me as my mothers parents had come from there to the us about the time this book was written . But when it didn’t come true this consecrated ones, either took their lives or quit worshipping God. How could they face there neighbors where they had preached.

    If they had only stayed in the truth, the light kept getting brighter and things started making sense. To the point they eventually stopped printing the studies because of so many I’ll timed events making it impossible to see the truth.

    But believe it or not, just like Catholics who were taught about limbo, and most are unaware that the Church got rid of it, they keep serving the Pope. And same with ctr, a small handful scattered around the world hang on to Him.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Going to let Pastor Russell answer that question 20 years later.

    None need be surprised to find that some of its statements, although startling strong come short now of the full Truth.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s. 1897 . It relates to the closing epoch of this Gospel Age, the overlapping between it and the New Dispensation.

    Please answer, wes that truthful?

    From preface of Studies VOL IV

    • Christopher Johns

      The overlapping of the Gospel Age with the Jewish Age is a parallel between the Overoapping of the GOSPEL age and the Messianic age. Like I said. Read the Divine Plan. And when I did it took me put of nominal christendom of the WTS.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    John chapter 3. Who ever doesnt believe in him is already judged, because they dont believe in the name of God’s only Son .

    When all the people living on earth now face the wrath of God, rev.19:20 But the beast was seized, along with the false prophet who had done signs in the beast presence. (He had used the signs to deceive people into receiving the beast’s mark and into worshipping the beast’s image.) The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake that burns with sulfur. The rest were killed by the sword that comes from the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds are the fill of their flesh.

    Do you know who the rider on the horse is? Do you know how scripture shows this us not at the end of the 1000 years?

    • Chris Johns

      Then you’re whole religion falls a apart because your religion teaches that those who didn’t believe will come back. Dave all I’m going to say and I’m going to leave it here. God has a plan for everyone. Jesus is a Ransom for ALL. Every single human being will have a chance for everlasting life oh the earth. Gods main goal is to seek a bride for his son Jesus. After the bride is complete they will raise the world of mankind and they will have forever lost out on the prize of the heavenly call but will have an opportunity for life on the earth. Please read the Divine plan of the ages. Opened my eyes to the Good News of great joy and not the Good tidings of bad news the Watchtower taught me for 6 years. Have a good day.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    The word many which about 25 translations I checked all use Jesus word many.
    And my English dictionary gave me the meaning— the majority— then gave you the meaning of majority—the greater number.

    Not only do you go against English but also Pastor Russell’s teaching. The unforgivable sin. But insulting the Holy Spirit won’t be forgiven. Jesus words at Matthew 12:31 And Pastor Russell used these verse more then once . Because its impossible to restore people to changed hearts and lives who turn away once they have seen the light. Hebrews 6:4
    When someone rejected the Law from Moses, they were put to death…How much worse punishment do you think is deserved by the person who walks all over God’s Son? Hebrews 10:28,29.

    You may say the judge made hard rules, but the Pastor enforced the hardest of them all on his readers, follows, believing Jehovah God was using him. A bondage of no resurrection. But it’s not a bondage for those who follow the faithful slave that Jesus said would be here during the last days, so common sense says your going to stay close to the one doing the feeding if you want life . You go your own way or satans children lure you away, you will perish from starvation of wholesome spitual food

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave incorrect.

      Many means all proof

      Romans 5:19
      “For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinner”

      Are you telling me there are sinless people becasue this just means the majority?

      • Christopher Johns

        Hebrews 6:4 is proof that only the anointed are on trial!!! Not the world of mankind. Read it. Ate you saying the world of mankind are partakes of the heavenly gift and partakes of the holy spirit? Nope!!! You just proved my point. The world of mankind is not on trial. Only the anointed are.

        Hebrews 6:4
        “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost”

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    On that one demon did you notice he is aware he and his cohorts will be destroyed. Removed from existence.

    Adam and Eve did the exact same thing as those semons.

    Where is the justice Afam and Eve get another chance but the demons don’t?

    • Christopher Johns

      Yes he is aware they will be destroyed. At the end I’d the millennium because they will be locked away for the millennium. Tye world the rebels IN THE LITTLE SEASON (years after the millennium) will be destroyed. But JWs are sending them off before they have had their trial. The world’s judgment day is the millennium. The Jws have made it now. God is only developing the New creation.

    • Christopher Johns

      It is fair that adam hers another trial. That’s the whole ransom. Jesus became a man to redeem man. Not demons and Angel’s.

  • Christopher Johns

    The method that sounds like satan hmmm lemme see

    Bible- “I am the way the truth shall the life no one comes to the father but by me.”

    JWs- Come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation.” WT 11-15-81 p.21

    “To receive everlasting life in the earthly paradise, we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it.” WT 2-15-83 p.12

    “Bible students…must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation.” Our Kingdom Ministry, November, 1990

    Yet not one scripture backs this point up. Noah’s Ark represents christ. Not an organization.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Didn’t say all Rutherford taught was wrong. I simply used Lucifer which brother Russell was wrong on also.

    And I new you would use a verse after what Jesus said about many . The word many does not meal all. Large number of
    The majority of people
    Right from Dictionary.

    Now for your words by Paul in Roman’s it’s not a contradiction.

    2 Ways to look at it.

    1. His all covers the majority.
    2 At Genesis 3:15 the if non dont commit the unforgivable sin they would get a resurrection.
    But look at perfect at one time, Satan and the Angel’s who joined him. What hope did they have?
    Matthew 8:29 Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?
    James 2:19 yet the demons believe and shudder.
    Mark 1:24 Did you come to destroy us?
    Dictionary on destroy, make something stop existing by damaging it or attacking it.
    Shudder to tremble or shake violently

    It sure is clear perfection will fully given up has no hope.
    Likewise Jehovahs justice is the same for Adam and Eve. Remember Genesis is after Adam and Eve sinned they would not be included in that hope.
    Same for all who had committed the unforgettable sin before and after Jesus died.

    Keep in mind here, the purpose of this discussion is trying to save yours or any who listen and come back to worship Jehovah God. On the other hand your offer to me, me not being anointed, is the Greek scriptures shows my place is secured in the 1000 years to be given a chance to pass the test at end of 1000 years of Satans abyss. So no matter what my life does there is salvation waiting for me. So just throw bible away Dave you dobt need it.

    Which method sounds like Satan approves???

    • Christopher Johns

      Jesus died as a corresponding price and ransom for ADAM. Adam will come back. All means all. Not majority not some, not most. All. Plain and simple Rutherford wasnshovijf everyone off into second death or non-ressurction before they were even placed on trial.

      Gospel Age———-> Church on trial
      Millennial Age——–> World on trial.

      Read Tabernacle Shadows you’ll understand. Rutherford changed the Parable of the Sheep and Goats to now instead of millennium si that he can shove all those who disagree with him into second death. Sorry no way around it.

      WTS has become christendom and have denied the ransom. The use the word but they dont know the concept. God didnt help russell understand the ransom and then completely change it

    • Christopher Johns

      All those scriptures you showed are about demons. When is the appointed time? At the end of the millennium becasue they will be locked away with satan. Its not difficult. You have mankind going into death before their trial in the millennium. Tye world is not on trip until the millennium. By making it now you’ve made void the purpose of the millennium. If it was only for those who havent heard the truth then wouldn’t it make sense to not come to my door at all tjay way I’ll be resurrected and have a chance?

      Which is more fair- Come to my door while I’m still blind give me a 5 minute speech and some video and that was my chance or a 1000 years of perfection satan locked away sin and death removed and have absolute 100 proof then the go to a blind person with faith? Which seems more fair?

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