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  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, It doesn't validate your case. Rev 19:1 "Great Crowd in heaven." If I told you that I heard a scream in the house would... } – Mar 28, 11:17 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Rev. 5:13 validates my case. In heaven. Note who they were saying it to. To the One sitting on the throne and... } – Mar 28, 10:46 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave Jesus and the 144,000 didnt help you make anyhring. Show me where jesus offered an earthly hope to anyone. You cant. Because he didnt.... } – Mar 27, 7:17 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Yes millions fall short. The way us called NARROW and FEW are the ones finding it. Many don't make it. Remember the foolish virgins.... } – Mar 27, 7:15 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Yet again. Where did Jesus ever show a Christian an earthly hope? He didnt. Which is why you always point to Isaiah and psalms... } – Mar 27, 7:14 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Then I saw three unclean spirits,like frogs come from the dragons mouth,the beast's mouth and the mouth of the false prophet. These... } – Mar 27, 7:11 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Rutherford built a mansion called Beth Sarim becasue be taught in 1925 that the ancient worthies were going to return and live in San... } – Mar 27, 6:49 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Thank you for your thoughts.You have a problem with your thinking, let me share. Will get back to you with it got to run, in... } – Mar 27, 6:11 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave The great crowd are anointed that didn’t make it. If no man can number the great crowd then your organization is wrong in showing... } – Mar 27, 5:42 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, The great crowd are anointed that didn’t make it. If no man can number the great crowd then your organization is wrong in showing... } – Mar 27, 5:41 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, And those who stayed fell into apostasy. Like those who followed the Catholic Church. The true church always existed outside even during the apostasy.... } – Mar 27, 5:38 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Thank you for your time. Will leave you with a thing that is definitely the case. Which is the meaning of fact.... } – Mar 27, 3:19 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, This is where I end. If you want to Live on the Earth and that's fine. But just now Jesus never taught anyone to... } – Mar 27, 2:37 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { John the Baptist died before spirit begetal. Jesus never offered two setsbif salvation. The ancient worthies will live on the earth. After spirit begettal there... } – Mar 27, 2:35 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, This shows that you you dont know what you are talking about. The Chicago group and Australian group are like saying "South Atlanta Congregation... } – Mar 27, 2:34 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Acts chapter 4 shows great increase to about 5,000. Let's say each year 365 days each anointed one preaches and teaches one... } – Mar 27, 1:27 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Anonymous Sodom had many people who died, probaly had very bad lives. It will be better for them on resurrection day compared to those cities... } – Mar 27, 12:06 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { John 10:16 are gentiles that he would go to to make them part of the little flock. That's why the message of galatians is about... } – Mar 27, 12:05 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, His spirit is with us. That's why he spirit begat us and we see through the control tactics he used. 75% of the bible... } – Mar 27, 12:02 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Liz. Like all anointed ones, Brother Rutherford was immperfect. You asked about his good. He got the studies and read them and came in... } – Mar 27, 11:53 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Incorrect nowhere does this say they are an earthly class. John 10:16 are gentiles that will br brought in. And those in the millennium.... } – Mar 27, 11:51 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Dictionary on the word fold.(fold something in or into) mix one ingredient gently with another Also, a group or community. Listen to... } – Mar 27, 11:39 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Can you show me a non-anointed Christian in the bible. Where did jesus set out two Hope's? } – Mar 27, 10:48 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Again show me where jesus offered two Hope's for Christians. You cant. Becasue he didnt. So when you go door to door you're preaching... } – Mar 27, 10:47 AM
  • User AvatarDave { See that you do not refuse to listen to the one who is speaking. For if those who refused to listen to the one giving... } – Mar 27, 9:08 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Psalms 150:1 Praise Jah! Praise God in his holy place. Rev. 19:1 150:2 Praise him for his mighty works. Rev. 15:3 Psalm... } – Mar 27, 8:29 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Psalms was not written for the Christian’s hope. Jesus opened a new and living way again where did jesus offer an earthly hope hope... } – Mar 26, 9:53 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Psalms was not written for the Christian's hope. Jesus opened a new and living way again where did jesus offer an earthly hope hope... } – Mar 26, 9:52 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Psalms 45. Do we agree Jesus is the king? Do we agree verse 10 is spiritual Israel, the 144,000? Do we agree... } – Mar 26, 9:51 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Gen. 6:11 But the earth had become ruined in the sight of the true God, and the earth was filled with violence.... } – Mar 26, 9:17 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Matthew 5:5 Psalms 37:11,29, John 10:16 Happy are the mild tempered since they will inherit the earth. But the meek will possess... } – Mar 26, 9:04 PM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Dear Bro Christopher,You as a ex Witness like myself were blinded by them(The G/Body)Into believing that the great Multitude(G/company)were a Earthly Class.But it is so... } – Mar 26, 7:36 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, "And there was opened the temple of God that is in heaven." Revelation 11:19 "Therefore are they before the throne of God; and they... } – Mar 26, 6:40 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Rev 19:1. IN HEAVEN. Not FROM HEAVEN. Where does mankind serve Jehovah in the temple? The great multitude does. 😊 } – Mar 26, 6:34 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, You're refusing to answer my question. Where did jesus ever offer two Hope's for Christian's? Where does jesus offer an earthly hope for Christian's.... } – Mar 26, 6:33 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Good job on 14:3 Why? Look where verse1 says Jesus and 144,000 are. Verse 2 John hears sound coming out of heaven--where... } – Mar 26, 6:19 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { The great crowd are before (enopion) the throne. Rev 7:9 The 144,000 are before (enopion) the throne. Rev 14:3 Both are before the throne. That... } – Mar 26, 3:28 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Of course no one saw God. But he heard the voice of a great crowd IN HEAVEN. Not "while I was in heaven." } – Mar 26, 3:23 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, What does Isaiah 6:1 have to do with the great crowd. Jehovah is sitting on the throne in heaven. Rev 19:1 says "Great crowd... } – Mar 26, 3:22 PM
  • User AvatarKevin Davis { I go to PRAYER for the transfer of WEALTH from the wicked to Gods people. The devil has RULED for to long. Faith can move... } – Mar 26, 3:04 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Hi Chris's Johns. Isaiah chapter 6:1. I saw Jehovah sitting on a loft and elevated throne. 1 Kings 22:19 Micaiah then said: I saw Jehovah... } – Mar 26, 2:20 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, The palm branches cant be symbolic? How do you know that those who have them arent in heaven. Rutherford said that they are in... } – Mar 26, 2:01 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, So if John was saying he heard them and they weren't in heaven it would read "I heard the voice of a great crowd... } – Mar 26, 12:20 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. The sound is in heaven. The great crowd are in unison with the words Praise Jah! Rev. Says they come throught great... } – Mar 26, 11:52 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave. The scripture line quotes said he heard him FROM his temple. Meaning Jehovah was in heaven. Rev 19:1 says he heard them IN heaven.... } – Mar 26, 10:12 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. In my distress I called on Jehovah, To my God I kept crying for help. From his temple he heard my voice,... } – Mar 26, 7:55 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave Rev 19:1 NWT "19 After this I heard what seemed to be a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: “Praise... } – Mar 25, 5:02 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Sorry Psalm 45:13-15 } – Mar 25, 4:44 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Why are the great crowd following the Bride into the palace? Psalms 35"13-15 "The King’s daughter is all glorious within; Her clothing is interwoven... } – Mar 25, 4:44 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Rev 19:1 "After these things I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven..." Simple. I dont need to split... } – Mar 25, 4:42 PM
  • User AvatarKevin davis { I am going to spend time in bible study. I need to make changes in my life. God is love that is what his spirit... } – Mar 25, 4:08 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Common English bible 7:13 Note the question. Who are these people wearing white robes, and where did they come from? The anointed... } – Mar 25, 4:00 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, I'm not going do a scripture tip-for-tat. I used to be a JW. I used to look for arguements to show that I was... } – Mar 25, 2:52 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Thank you for your comments Chris. Rev. 21:3 Look! The tent of God is with mankind Psalms 15:1,2,O Jehovah, who will be a quest in... } – Mar 25, 2:23 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Yes. The bride is in heaven. Notice how in Psalm 45 tye bride is described in verse 13 and 14. Then the "virgin companions"... } – Mar 25, 1:14 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's . Did you see the problems with those 2 verses? } – Mar 25, 12:52 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Rolando, Oh ok. It's on the Dawn Website } – Mar 25, 12:48 PM
  • User AvatarROLANDO RODRIGUEZ { The Grace of Jehovah } – Mar 25, 12:04 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Rev. 19:7,8, Let us rejoice and celebrate, and give him the glory, for the wedding day of the Lamb has come,and his... } – Mar 25, 11:06 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Rolando, What booklet are you talking about? } – Mar 25, 7:19 AM
  • User AvatarROLANDO RODRIGUEZ { Back in the early 1990s I actually updated this booklets, since it was outdated and refuted JW doctrines that they no longer believed. The booklet... } – Mar 24, 10:20 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Thanks for your response. I as well have all of Rutherfords Books and Paul SL Johnson. Yes we believe the world of mankind is... } – Mar 24, 11:05 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. I have his studies, even a nice copy of the photo drama of creation. Also have most of Rutherfords books. Sadly for... } – Mar 23, 8:14 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, I used to be a Jehovahs Witness. I loved it. But I read CT Russell' Divine Plan of the Ages! It changed my life... } – Mar 23, 6:30 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, So you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses? } – Mar 23, 6:13 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Are you a prodigal son? If so welcome back. } – Mar 23, 5:42 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Even thought we have not met, my prays are for all the brothers and sisters around the world . Your included, now let's say Jehovah... } – Mar 23, 5:40 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Governing Body doesn't have your fears. It is a safety protection for all. My wife and I had a anointed sister and her daughter stay... } – Mar 23, 5:36 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Why are the last anointed one? } – Mar 23, 5:25 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Hi Tapio If you would like to discuss the Gentile times I would be happy to. For 28 years ctr said it was coming .... } – Mar 23, 4:23 PM
  • User AvatarKevin Davis { Kingdom hall of altavista elders made a wise decision to close. During this time of sickness coming thru our town. Good job elders. They have... } – Mar 23, 4:19 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Thank you. } – Mar 23, 3:01 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, April 7, 2020. } – Mar 23, 12:53 PM
  • User AvatarDave { What is the Lords evening meal date this year? } – Mar 23, 12:51 PM
  • User AvatarKevin davis { The bible talks about the transfer of wealth from the wicked to to the righteous. I will have food soon. My oil is full now.... } – Mar 23, 9:28 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Simeon has related how God first concerned Himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for His name. With this the words of the... } – Mar 22, 6:33 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { He didnt go out to argue. When some came to him he could argue. Not go out to tru to refute. Jesus took on the... } – Mar 22, 6:27 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Think if he read this to them the Jews. Because of our sins and the wrong doing of our parents, both Jerusalem... } – Mar 22, 10:27 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Did you see in my last post, Apollo's was not afraid to argue with the Jews over scripture? } – Mar 22, 10:23 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To All. Did Apollos have the heavenly call? If answer is yes, 1. Was it when he believed? 2. Was he a chosen one on... } – Mar 22, 10:20 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Yes billions will be resurrected. Romans 6:23; 3:23. But Jesus and the bride are going to bring removal of those Jesus judges... } – Mar 21, 9:25 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Well Dave. I hope you keep searching and God bless your studies. Im not going to argue with anyone in scripture. It gets nowhere. So... } – Mar 21, 9:24 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Grammar corrected. Dave, God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to the gentiles to gather the rest of the bride.... } – Mar 21, 9:17 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to to the gentiles to gather the rest if the bride. Again... } – Mar 21, 9:15 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to to the gentiles to gather the rest if the bride. Again... } – Mar 21, 9:15 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. The spirit and bride are speaking to any who are willing to listen. Remember Acts 17:30 EVERYONE!!! EVERYWHERE!!! It is that simple,... } – Mar 21, 9:09 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Yes there will be people who die in Armageddon. However your missing a huge chunk of the bible. All are going to be resurrected... } – Mar 21, 9:08 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. One more thought.Jesus referring to end times. Matthew 24:37-39 As it was in the time of Noah, so it will be in... } – Mar 21, 9:02 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, There have been so many viruses and when this passes then what? Was assume something else? The world will have their trial in the... } – Mar 21, 8:59 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Yes the bride, the little flock. Luke 11:32 But I saw another dave not me left a message, Rev. 19 Jesus and... } – Mar 21, 8:52 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Your question, how will these priests rule over these people if their destroyed or are in hell? Rev. 20:4-6 Note where it... } – Mar 21, 8:44 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave. Pf course. However we see that God is calling a bride. He isnt calling the world. That's why we are called a little flock.... } – Mar 21, 8:41 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Acts 17:30 reads, God overlooks these things in times past, but now directs everyone everywhere to change their hearts and lives. } – Mar 21, 8:30 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave. The world is not on trial. The scriptures confirm this. God was only dealing with Israel. Now hes opened it up to the gentiles... } – Mar 21, 7:03 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's Only church is on trial. Matthew 24:24 False Christ's and false prophets will appear, and they will offer great signs and wonders... } – Mar 21, 6:17 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Marc on trinity. 1. Matthew 19:6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. That's a couple that gets married. The rest of... } – Mar 21, 6:02 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Kevin, That is very interesting. And true. That's why nearly 75% of the Bible students left the organization that Rutherford created. I think the biggest... } – Mar 18, 10:58 AM
  • User AvatarKevin Anthony { Rutherford left the path of truth that Brother Russell laid down. Simple as that. Anyone running for the High Calling in Christ would have recognized... } – Mar 18, 8:39 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { John, Let's review part of 1 Corinthians 7 Married Couples 1 Cor 7:10-11 10 Now to the married I command, yet not I but the... } – Mar 10, 7:48 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Hello John,Interesting what you had to say-But The Son of God Said in Mathew 19:7-9 (This really explains the Situation) "They said to him: "Why,then,did... } – Mar 09, 8:44 PM
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  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s

    THIS IS A FACT. Vol IV pages 544,545, three times it ask who this army is. He had it wrong back then and after he went to hea en the leaders had it wrong for another 104 years. Referring to Joel, and the army Jehovah was going to use.

    Here is where it is funny. The first sentence in April study WT has Charles Russell’s name in it.

    So if we take it from ctr,s beginning st it took almost 150 for the correct understanding come about.

    Wow!!! This is why people who left ctr and others miss out.

    Praise Jehovah as his light keeps getting brighter.

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave
      So his light got brighter on 1925? 1975, Evaul slave class? Faithful servant was all anointed? Organ transplants are cannibalism? 1914 was “this generation” and “overlapping generation” Jonadabs? Israel? Ruth-Estger class? Thw scapegoat being the bible students?

      Hmm sound more like wandering in darkness to me.

      Why dont you try to read the volumes and stop looking for errors in them. We dont hold to the volumes like y’all do the WT magazines.

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      Why dont you google the Australian Royal Commission when Geoffrey was on the stand and said that its presumptuous to believe that only you have the truth.
      Jehovahs word said that nothing covered wouldn’t be uncovered. Man did it shine in the WT and expose all the pedophiles and false doctrines.

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      I’m going to leave this hear. It’s clear your whole intention is to be correct. I was a JW so I know your mentality. You want the last word so you can go off being puffed about about having been correct. You did this on Facebook too. Yes I remember.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    Ad in back of book

    THE WATCH TOWER

    And

    Herald of Christ Presence

    This journal should regularly visit all who have the slightest interest in the topics in this and the other volumes of the Scripture Studies. It is issued twice a month, 16 pages, at one dollar (4s.) a year in advance.

    I always wonder did my Grandfather and Grandmother get any of the books when on the farm. For many colporture hit the farms. Will have to wait till the resurrection to find out.

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      We hand out tracts and have witnessing booths and we have many traveling brothers and sisters that visit all over the world. We are a little flock and when the bride is complete we will raise the world of mankind and will have all to be enlighted bu the truth.

  • Dave

    Here are some verses ctr uses on page 528 VOL IV.
    Rev. 16:14; Zeph:3:8 ;Isa. 13:4; rev. 16:18; Heb. 12:26.
    All the proud and all that do wickedly shall be stubble, and this fire shall burn them up. It shall leave them neither root nor branch. Mai.4:1

    Happily you and I can say were happy he was wrong on the timing, or we never would have lived . And no need to criticize him as he was ahead of his time. Yet those prophecies still have to be fulfilled.

    Page 616 He is off on the folliwing.
    We have seen that the period of our Lord’s presence from 1874 to 1914 is a harvest time, the earlier part of it for gathering his elect bride, and the latter part a time of trouble ,for the overthrow of present institutions, in preparation for the new Kingdom.

    Think if we had the internet back then. They would have web sites going after him just like happened today with the judge.

    Read some stories of Russell’s follows, even in other countries. One from Norway touched me as my mothers parents had come from there to the us about the time this book was written . But when it didn’t come true this consecrated ones, either took their lives or quit worshipping God. How could they face there neighbors where they had preached.

    If they had only stayed in the truth, the light kept getting brighter and things started making sense. To the point they eventually stopped printing the studies because of so many I’ll timed events making it impossible to see the truth.

    But believe it or not, just like Catholics who were taught about limbo, and most are unaware that the Church got rid of it, they keep serving the Pope. And same with ctr, a small handful scattered around the world hang on to Him.
    Amazing!!!

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Going to let Pastor Russell answer that question 20 years later.

    None need be surprised to find that some of its statements, although startling strong come short now of the full Truth.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s. 1897 . It relates to the closing epoch of this Gospel Age, the overlapping between it and the New Dispensation.

    Please answer, wes that truthful?

    From preface of Studies VOL IV

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      The overlapping of the Gospel Age with the Jewish Age is a parallel between the Overoapping of the GOSPEL age and the Messianic age. Like I said. Read the Divine Plan. And when I did it took me put of nominal christendom of the WTS.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    John chapter 3. Who ever doesnt believe in him is already judged, because they dont believe in the name of God’s only Son .

    When all the people living on earth now face the wrath of God, rev.19:20 But the beast was seized, along with the false prophet who had done signs in the beast presence. (He had used the signs to deceive people into receiving the beast’s mark and into worshipping the beast’s image.) The two of them were thrown alive into the fiery lake that burns with sulfur. The rest were killed by the sword that comes from the mouth of the rider on the horse, and all the birds are the fill of their flesh.

    Do you know who the rider on the horse is? Do you know how scripture shows this us not at the end of the 1000 years?

    • Chris Johns

      Dave,
      Then you’re whole religion falls a apart because your religion teaches that those who didn’t believe will come back. Dave all I’m going to say and I’m going to leave it here. God has a plan for everyone. Jesus is a Ransom for ALL. Every single human being will have a chance for everlasting life oh the earth. Gods main goal is to seek a bride for his son Jesus. After the bride is complete they will raise the world of mankind and they will have forever lost out on the prize of the heavenly call but will have an opportunity for life on the earth. Please read the Divine plan of the ages. Opened my eyes to the Good News of great joy and not the Good tidings of bad news the Watchtower taught me for 6 years. Have a good day.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    The word many which about 25 translations I checked all use Jesus word many.
    And my English dictionary gave me the meaning— the majority— then gave you the meaning of majority—the greater number.

    Not only do you go against English but also Pastor Russell’s teaching. The unforgivable sin. But insulting the Holy Spirit won’t be forgiven. Jesus words at Matthew 12:31 And Pastor Russell used these verse more then once . Because its impossible to restore people to changed hearts and lives who turn away once they have seen the light. Hebrews 6:4
    When someone rejected the Law from Moses, they were put to death…How much worse punishment do you think is deserved by the person who walks all over God’s Son? Hebrews 10:28,29.

    You may say the judge made hard rules, but the Pastor enforced the hardest of them all on his readers, follows, believing Jehovah God was using him. A bondage of no resurrection. But it’s not a bondage for those who follow the faithful slave that Jesus said would be here during the last days, so common sense says your going to stay close to the one doing the feeding if you want life . You go your own way or satans children lure you away, you will perish from starvation of wholesome spitual food

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave incorrect.

      Many means all proof

      Romans 5:19
      “For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinner”

      Are you telling me there are sinless people becasue this just means the majority?

      • Christopher Johns

        Dave,
        Hebrews 6:4 is proof that only the anointed are on trial!!! Not the world of mankind. Read it. Ate you saying the world of mankind are partakes of the heavenly gift and partakes of the holy spirit? Nope!!! You just proved my point. The world of mankind is not on trial. Only the anointed are.

        Hebrews 6:4
        “For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost”

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    On that one demon did you notice he is aware he and his cohorts will be destroyed. Removed from existence.

    Adam and Eve did the exact same thing as those semons.

    Where is the justice Afam and Eve get another chance but the demons don’t?

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      Yes he is aware they will be destroyed. At the end I’d the millennium because they will be locked away for the millennium. Tye world the rebels IN THE LITTLE SEASON (years after the millennium) will be destroyed. But JWs are sending them off before they have had their trial. The world’s judgment day is the millennium. The Jws have made it now. God is only developing the New creation.

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      It is fair that adam hers another trial. That’s the whole ransom. Jesus became a man to redeem man. Not demons and Angel’s.

  • Christopher Johns

    The method that sounds like satan hmmm lemme see

    Bible- “I am the way the truth shall the life no one comes to the father but by me.”

    JWs- Come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation.” WT 11-15-81 p.21

    “To receive everlasting life in the earthly paradise, we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it.” WT 2-15-83 p.12

    “Bible students…must appreciate that identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation.” Our Kingdom Ministry, November, 1990

    Yet not one scripture backs this point up. Noah’s Ark represents christ. Not an organization.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Didn’t say all Rutherford taught was wrong. I simply used Lucifer which brother Russell was wrong on also.

    And I new you would use a verse after what Jesus said about many . The word many does not meal all. Large number of
    The majority of people
    Right from Dictionary.

    Now for your words by Paul in Roman’s it’s not a contradiction.

    2 Ways to look at it.

    1. His all covers the majority.
    2 At Genesis 3:15 the if non dont commit the unforgivable sin they would get a resurrection.
    But look at perfect at one time, Satan and the Angel’s who joined him. What hope did they have?
    Matthew 8:29 Did you come here to torment us before the appointed time?
    James 2:19 yet the demons believe and shudder.
    Mark 1:24 Did you come to destroy us?
    Dictionary on destroy, make something stop existing by damaging it or attacking it.
    Shudder to tremble or shake violently

    It sure is clear perfection will fully given up has no hope.
    Likewise Jehovahs justice is the same for Adam and Eve. Remember Genesis is after Adam and Eve sinned they would not be included in that hope.
    Same for all who had committed the unforgettable sin before and after Jesus died.

    Keep in mind here, the purpose of this discussion is trying to save yours or any who listen and come back to worship Jehovah God. On the other hand your offer to me, me not being anointed, is the Greek scriptures shows my place is secured in the 1000 years to be given a chance to pass the test at end of 1000 years of Satans abyss. So no matter what my life does there is salvation waiting for me. So just throw bible away Dave you dobt need it.

    Which method sounds like Satan approves???

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      Jesus died as a corresponding price and ransom for ADAM. Adam will come back. All means all. Not majority not some, not most. All. Plain and simple Rutherford wasnshovijf everyone off into second death or non-ressurction before they were even placed on trial.

      Gospel Age———-> Church on trial
      Millennial Age——–> World on trial.

      Read Tabernacle Shadows you’ll understand. Rutherford changed the Parable of the Sheep and Goats to now instead of millennium si that he can shove all those who disagree with him into second death. Sorry no way around it.

      WTS has become christendom and have denied the ransom. The use the word but they dont know the concept. God didnt help russell understand the ransom and then completely change it

    • Christopher Johns

      All those scriptures you showed are about demons. When is the appointed time? At the end of the millennium becasue they will be locked away with satan. Its not difficult. You have mankind going into death before their trial in the millennium. Tye world is not on trip until the millennium. By making it now you’ve made void the purpose of the millennium. If it was only for those who havent heard the truth then wouldn’t it make sense to not come to my door at all tjay way I’ll be resurrected and have a chance?

      Which is more fair- Come to my door while I’m still blind give me a 5 minute speech and some video and that was my chance or a 1000 years of perfection satan locked away sin and death removed and have absolute 100 proof then the go to a blind person with faith? Which seems more fair?

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