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  • User AvatarJam { Hi Jacqueline (Bible Student) The Sanhedrin was not really concerned with Jesus claiming to to be God's son or God, because the Babylon the Great... } – Dec 07, 1:05 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks David. Yes, the act of gay sex is a choice, just as the act of adultery is a choice. However, gay feelings, depending on... } – Nov 14, 7:53 AM
  • User AvatarDavid { Being gay IS a choice! Just as one chooses to take other immoral courses. When we choose to commit adultery, its a choice, when we... } – Nov 02, 3:53 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Tim - I imagine your have had some significant personal negative experiences with the JW Organization. What positive lessons have you learned from this experience?... } – Nov 01, 6:59 AM
  • User AvatarTim { The governing body are nothing more than leaders of this cult Jehovahs Witnesses....this organization is infested with petifles,I challenge folks to wake up Research...Google Jehovahs... } – Nov 01, 12:03 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Hank. Good questions. Your interpretation are more literal and that is fine. It is up to each of us to try to come to... } – Oct 26, 8:02 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Glad you enjoyed it Br. David. I agree it is an excellent book and well researched. } – Oct 26, 5:20 AM
  • User AvatarDavid Aldridge { Excellent book! } – Oct 26, 2:53 AM
  • User AvatarHank { Isaiah 43:10 CEB You are my witnesses says the LORD. 13 From the dawn of time, I am the one. No one can escape my... } – Oct 24, 4:56 PM
  • User AvatarHank { To Peter. As you learn more you will get that answer. Let me know what Joshua 10:12,13, Ecclesiastes 1:5 and Habbukuk 3:11 mean to you.... } – Oct 24, 4:48 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Marilyn. Would you like to share your experiences with the JWs and what you learned? } – Oct 22, 11:06 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hank - I am no expert on flat earth, so I do not want to contradict you. How is it that Antarctica has six months... } – Oct 22, 11:05 AM
  • User AvatarMarilyn Albert { Brilliant. As a former JW, it never entered my consciousness that we were praising these fools. } – Oct 22, 12:20 AM
  • User AvatarHank { The earth is flat unless you believe the earth is spinnings 1000 miles in a circle why the earths going around the sun 66,600 miles... } – Oct 21, 3:48 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { DJ - Thanks for your warning. Please elaborate. Not sure what you mean. We believe what the Bible teaches. 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 (ESV) "9 Or... } – Oct 04, 4:51 AM
  • User AvatarDJ { This talk was an terrible! The bible is clear about homosexuality. Just like it is clear about adultery and fornication! I fear that the Bible... } – Oct 02, 6:51 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi Bro. David. I hope all is well with you. } – Sep 07, 9:54 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi Raj, Would you say that in every instance in the New Testament that the Greek word Kurious refers to Yahweh or Jehovah? Are there... } – Sep 07, 9:54 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Genesis 1:27 (AV) So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.... } – Sep 07, 9:45 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Nigel - Great to hear your comments. I agree with your statement "I, myself, place greater importance on personal relationship with God than organized religion."... } – Sep 07, 9:40 PM
  • User Avatar { Jehovah so loves the 🌎 world. What does the Bible mean let us make man in our image. Christ and God made man. First God... } – Sep 06, 10:17 AM
  • User AvatarRaj { The Greek word Kurios referred in Romans 10:9 is the Greek equivalent to the Hebrew word Yahweh or Jehovah? } – Sep 05, 10:22 PM
  • User AvatarDavid Aldridge { I personally communicate with one of the brothers in this group! } – Sep 05, 6:38 PM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { To be news God calls "good" it will be beyond even our most positive attempts to broaden the salvation. It is doubting men who must... } – Sep 05, 1:37 AM
  • User AvatarNigel Goh { • First time to come across your group. I send you love and wish you peace and safety. • I, myself, place greater importance on... } – Aug 31, 9:53 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Ryan - Thanks. Yes, you make a good point. Noah and the Animals could have simply moved out of the flood zone. } – Aug 31, 8:04 PM
  • User AvatarRyan Vinter { No. There really was a global flood that is pretty clear in the bible. There may of been a sea or 2 or 3 but... } – Aug 30, 8:07 AM
  • User AvatarBrian Andrew Kutscher { Br. Edward Lorenz was a young boy, but I don't know in what year this took place. He and his father were in Bullock's Department... } – Aug 25, 10:34 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks MilkyWay. You are of course welcome to share your thoughts from your studies here. I agree with you that "The choice has to be... } – Jul 02, 3:54 AM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { Revelation 14:6-7 states "from the Kingdom" everyone will be given the choice if they want to live. The choice has to be our own as... } – Jun 30, 7:59 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi 091268. You asked "did Russel shun. people?" No, he did not. This link explains how the Bible Student Association was set up in Brother... } – Jun 19, 2:01 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi 091268. I am very sorry to hear that you are disfellowshipped. Bible Students do not practice shunning ever. Where is "shunning" taught in the... } – Jun 19, 1:44 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hello 091268. It is nice to hear from you. I understand that you follow "Jehovah's Organization" probably based on scriptures in the Gospels that talk... } – Jun 19, 1:30 PM
  • User Avatar091268 { good talking to you all i only talk about bible and religion. on this channel. if i go back to kingdom hall i may stop... } – Jun 19, 12:12 AM
  • User Avatar091268 { I love Jehovah more then my own flesh. and i love living and i love my flesh. the governing body is a group of people... } – Jun 19, 12:02 AM
  • User Avatar091268 { hi i do not always agree with every thing governing body does but they are in charge. all governments and church and kingdom halls has... } – Jun 18, 11:18 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Fluffy, Glad to hear from you. I enjoyed reading your well reasoned comments. As I carefully read your comments, I started making notes of questions... } – Jun 05, 5:23 AM
  • User AvatarFluffy { Hello everyone. Some of you point to Jehovah's Witnesses, in one way or another, as not being Jehovah's people / nation / organization as they... } – Jun 04, 12:18 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Nathaniel - The link is up on YouTube. You can get it from the site or here: } – May 31, 5:36 PM
  • User AvatarNathanial { Hello, are there any alternative ways of viewing this video? I'm very interested in seeing it, but Flash player doesn't work any more. } – May 29, 3:00 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Searching, Thanks for your question. Here are just some of the differences. We beleive... 1) Jesus dies a RANSOM for ALL (1 Tim 2:4-6), meaning... } – May 23, 5:46 AM
  • User AvatarSearching { Although I haven't read all of what is on the website here, I'm not yet seeing any difference in what you believe and what JW's... } – May 22, 5:43 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Br. Laban - I am glad if it can be a blessing. You are welcome to download it. You can download from YouTube at this... } – Mar 22, 7:37 PM
  • User AvatarLaban Ssewanyana { Dear Brother Peter Karava. Thank you for this beautiful work. Could you please make a provision to allow me download this video so I can... } – Mar 22, 1:00 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks MilkyWay - Some good thoughts you had. I agree that our relationship is directly with the Father through his Son Jesus Christ. When Church... } – Feb 23, 5:01 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Jehovah is called God in the New Testament. Are you comfortable with either Jehovah, Yahweh and/or God? } – Feb 22, 7:43 PM
  • User Avatar { You should be called by his name jehovah } – Feb 15, 1:04 AM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { I agree. Like Jesus said to the Pharisees that they shut up the Kingdom before men, like WT they try to narrow the salvation by... } – Feb 14, 10:25 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks MilkyWay. As we have found, there is NO scriptural evidence that everyone except for Jehovah's Witnesses will be destroyed in Armageddon, nor that those... } – Feb 14, 11:54 AM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { I understand that aspect too. WT is unique today in cult scale, and the indoctrination with a fake doomsday has ultimate control objectives in the... } – Feb 11, 10:50 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { MilkyWay - Our biggest concern is when an organization is so controlling that its members do not have the Christian liberty to honestly question teachings... } – Feb 04, 4:18 AM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { In the theory, with other WT symbols weaved into their graphics, is that they are a "33" controlled organization. 33 is the highest managerial order... } – Jan 31, 12:48 AM
  • User AvatarSeeker { Hello, I recommend a study of the “Song of Moses” to see how this key prophecy influences the understanding of all the other prophecies concerning... } – Jan 29, 3:18 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi MilkyWay. I am not sure I understand the significance of J being the tenth letter of the alphabet and W being the twenty third... } – Jan 27, 5:21 PM
  • User AvatarMilkyWay { Why is J=10 and W=23 alphabet positions also 33 "dot org" or "JW" dot org? Imo, it is a mix. Since the time of Judas,... } – Jan 27, 3:44 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks friend. Yes, I agree there is no connections. We are willing to discuss honest criticism, however anyone who claims a connection with Freemasonry has... } – Jan 17, 12:13 PM
  • User AvatarM { There's no connection between Freemasonry and JW's. This taken from Massimo Introvigne book, “Freemasonry and New Religious Movements,” [«Ελευθεροτεκτονισμός και Νέα Θρησκευτικά Κινήματα»], pp./σσ. 306-318,... } – Jan 16, 7:57 AM
  • User AvatarChris J { Hey Rodrigo, Yes our numbers are going down. We believe it is due the bride being complete. The Truth is not for the world during... } – Jan 04, 3:58 PM
  • User AvatarLeonard A Dressler { Yes I was a Ministerial Servant and the Building Project of I was involved in to the point of Seeing out of code building Let's... } – Dec 02, 9:02 AM
  • User AvatarRR { Back in the 90s I was contacted by one of their leaders. They found my website and began corresponding with me. They are of course... } – Nov 26, 9:16 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi Roy - Some Bible Students have had friendly contact with this group. Our main focus of course is our own personal relationship with our... } – Nov 24, 8:53 AM
  • User AvatarRoy { Not much affected, since they are another group, and they have very little presence in Russia, way less than the JW's } – Nov 20, 9:37 AM
  • User AvatarRodrigo Gallegos { Yes, I also discovered that, I find it really interesting since this group has been dropping in numbers as they don't preach in the same... } – Nov 20, 9:35 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Annelie - Thanks. That is an excellent questions! It is great to have a deep thinker of scripture to have a discussion with. Let me... } – Sep 25, 8:03 AM
  • User Avatarannelie williams { am i missing something?...a resurrection,means you have to die first,before you get resurrected,and only then is it possible,to die a second death,unless you are of... } – Sep 24, 9:54 PM
  • User Avatar { Thank you Richard for your reply .will get back about family name . } – Aug 07, 2:42 PM
  • User Avatar { Thank you Rolando for your reply . } – Aug 07, 2:41 PM
  • User AvatarJohn ship { Thank you Peter for your reply .I will get back to comment on some other doctrines.i do favour the Bible students for their kind responses... } – Aug 07, 2:40 PM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Hello John,I was a JW For over 40 years in Australia.I found the Bible Students in 2010,& Have never Looked back since!We have Bretheren all... } – Jul 30, 12:29 AM
  • User AvatarROLANDO RODRIGUEZ { Hi John, as Peter mentioned, Bible Students are not dogmatic when it comes to certain beliefs. These are things or subjects that YOU have to... } – Jul 29, 9:03 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks John. I am glad you are open to the Christian liberty of personal Bible study and honest freedom of thought. Your studies on Michael... } – Jul 29, 12:42 PM
  • User AvatarJohn ship { I am faded out of jws after 50 years in the of the main reasons is the way Jesus has been pushed out and... } – Jul 29, 12:04 PM
  • User Avatar { There is a man who is telling the truth. } – Jul 13, 8:08 AM
  • User Avatarterry lawton { I guess you didnt feel the need to reply Roy.... Psa 146:3 - it would do you well brother to read it. } – Jul 11, 6:36 AM
  • User AvatarROLANDO RODRIGUEZ { Doug, the Watchtower would expect complete obedience when you join. in fact before baptism, you will sit down with the elders while they ask you... } – Jul 08, 4:44 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { RR, I see what you mean about that. I am scared that if I would get into the JW I would get disfelloshipped early on.... } – Jul 06, 6:36 AM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { RR, Thank you for providing insight on that. Doug } – Jul 06, 4:55 AM
  • User AvatarRR { Doug, those "141 rules" are not Jehovah's Witness rules that you will find in any of their publication. They are rules that some former JW... } – Jul 05, 6:53 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { RR, I sent you my email address. Doug } – Jul 03, 7:49 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { RR, I meant rules like the 141 rules of the JW. Where they try to run your life. Doug } – Jul 03, 7:30 PM
  • User AvatarRR { Doug I don't have your e-mail, but you can e-mail me at } – Jul 03, 2:10 PM
  • User AvatarRR { Hi Doug, may I ask where these "rules" are? As already mentioned. Bible Students as a whole do not have rules to abide by. We... } – Jul 03, 1:31 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Thank you again. That is great to know! Right now I am searching for a Bible Student group to be a part of and maybe... } – Jul 03, 9:17 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { No Doug,The only rules we have are in Gods word, "All scripture is inspired" If it is not in gods word,then we cannot invent rules... } – Jul 03, 7:47 AM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Richard, Thank you very much for this! I did not realize that. I have another question. Do you know if the Bible Student Movement different... } – Jul 03, 4:59 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Hello Doug,Welcome from Australian Bible Students.The Bible students have just released a new Bible called the RVIC(Which Stands for revised version Improved & corrected)Bro Peter... } – Jul 02, 6:41 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Thank you for the info. Does anyone know what the best bible to use and read for this belief? } – Jul 02, 5:00 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Doug - Bible Students do provide baptism services which are requested and planned for in advance. Most who have become Bible Students are baptized again... } – Jul 02, 10:20 AM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Thank you Peter for the email. I work M-F during the day. I do have a question, can one be baptized into the bible student... } – Jul 02, 6:48 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Doug - Rolando as a former JW and researcher knows a lot. You are also welcome to give me a call. I will email you... } – Jul 02, 4:41 AM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Hello Peter K. and RR, A rep. from the central Ohio group,, did get in touch with me today and he said there are... } – Jul 01, 5:00 PM
  • User AvatarRR { I rolled my eyes at every meetings, too often from the podium. LOL } – Jul 01, 4:39 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Doug - is based in Ohio and if you contact them, they should be able to direct you to the nearest study group. However,... } – Jul 01, 3:33 PM
  • User AvatarRR { Hi Doug, There are Bible Students in the Ohio area. Not sure about Loveland/Cincinnati. I could check, I know we have brethren in the Columbus... } – Jul 01, 2:43 PM
  • User AvatarDOUG EVANS { Hello. I am very interested in the Bible Student beliefs and believing in Jehovah in this way. I just do not want to join the... } – Jul 01, 5:14 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Interesting RR. I did not know that. By todays JW Organization standards, the older JW organization had been demonstrating apostate behavior by providing the old... } – Jun 26, 9:01 AM
  • User AvatarRR { Yes, 1927 was the last edition published by the society. However the Society continued to offer the volumes well into the 1960s. Throughout the 1930s,... } – Jun 25, 7:05 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Sr. Sharon G. We have lot's of evidence of an earthly kingdom in various scriptures. Revelation 21 seems clear that the New Jerusalem comes down... } – May 31, 8:59 AM
  • User Avatarsharon g { Jeff, we have an xJW in our class who wanted NEW testament scripture that said anything about the New Jerusalem being on earth as well... } – May 29, 2:29 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { You can find "Ask Jaqueline" at } – Apr 28, 9:43 AM
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215 comments to Latest Comments Digest

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    Matthew 5:5 Psalms 37:11,29, John 10:16
    Happy are the mild tempered since they will inherit the earth. But the meek will possess the earth. And they will live forever on it. And I have other sheep noymt of this fold, those too I must bring in, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    Good job on 14:3 Why? Look where verse1 says Jesus and 144,000 are. Verse 2 John hears sound coming out of heaven–where did they come from? Verse 3 bought from the earth. The other translation says from heaven. We have no problem with that verse. Can you show me a verse in Rev. Where it says Jesus will shepherd 144,000? Remember the great crowd at end of great trib, at the beginning of the 1000 will be shepherded by Jesus. Rev. 7:17 will guide them to springs of waters of life. The 144,000 don’t need that as they are immortal. When it says before the throne it shows God spreads his tent over them. Psalms 15:1 and Rev.213-5
    Again I challenge you to show one verse in Rev. Where it says God’s tent is over the 144,000???
    Where is God’s throne? Psalms 103:19 Jehovah has firmly established his throne in the heavens. Psalms 95:6 Come, let us worship and bow down. Let us kneel before Jehovah our maker.
    50 times in the Hebrew scriptures the words from humans, praise Jah. Surely you believe Jehovah on His throne heard those 50. Also all the billions times billions of prayers that went to Jehovah on his throne he heard. But wicked ones he does not hear. Is. 1:15
    And last but least, JWs have a great crowd who are washing their robes in the blood of the Lamb. Your group has no such group.
    This is the facts .

    But on my next one will explain the virgin companions in Psalm 45.

    • Christopher Johns

      You’re refusing to answer my question. Where did jesus ever offer two Hope’s for Christian’s? Where does jesus offer an earthly hope for Christian’s. Your must preaching JW reasoning. Abajn show me where Christians in the first century have an earful hope. I won’t answer any of your questions until you answer that. I used to argue with you on the FOJW Facebook page.

    • Christopher Johns

      Rev 19:1. IN HEAVEN. Not FROM HEAVEN. Where does mankind serve Jehovah in the temple? The great multitude does. 😊

    • Christopher Johns


      “And there was opened the temple of God that is in heaven.”
      Revelation 11:19

      “Therefore are they before the throne of God; and they serve him day and night in his temple”

      Revelation 7:15 ASV

      • Richard.Tazzyman

        Dear Bro Christopher,You as a ex Witness like myself were blinded by them(The G/Body)Into believing that the great Multitude(G/company)were a Earthly Class.But it is so clear that they,along with the angels,Elders,& the four Living creatures are before the Throne!Also it says further in verse 14(Chap 7) that have washed their Robes & made them white in the blood of the Lamb-Itf this was the case then they would have been given everlasting life,They would not have to face the final Test at the end of the 1000 year reign of christ,when Satan is let loose!The same misunderstanding they have when it comes to ISRAEL.If they read the scripture in Romans 11,The apostle paul clearly states that Jehovah has not discarded Israel at all-“BY NO MEANS” he says,in fact in verse 25…..”:A partial dulling of senses has come upon Israel(Note-NOT SPIRITUAL ISRAEL)untill the full number of people of the nations has come in,& in this manner all Israel(Again,NOT SPIRITUAL Israel)will be saved.God Bless,Richard.Tazzyman-Bible Student,Australia)

  • Dave

    Hi Chris’s Johns.

    Isaiah chapter 6:1. I saw Jehovah sitting on a loft and elevated throne.

    1 Kings 22:19 Micaiah then said: I saw Jehovah sitting on his throne and all the army of the heavens standing by him.

    Daniel 7;9 I kept watching until thrones were set in place and the Ancient of Days sat down. 7:1 saw a dream and visions.

    Rev. 1:10 By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s day, and I heard behind me a strong voice like that of a trumpet

    Did all those really see Jehovah? Three said they did . Exodus 33:20 You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live. Look how Jesus agreed. John 1:18 No man has seen God at any time.
    43 times in Psalms, 5 in Isaiah Nd twice in Exodus the words Praise Jah!
    John is being given this in signs, he is taken to the future. And when asked who the great crowd was, this group saved through the great tribulation, John did not know. Also he didnt know that the 144,000 were all in heaven before the end of the great tribulation.

    Now I know you guy read the Watch towers when they come out. So I ask you a favor. During the trib when you read the anointed were taken to heaven . Will you believe me then?

    • Christopher Johns

      What does Isaiah 6:1 have to do with the great crowd. Jehovah is sitting on the throne in heaven. Rev 19:1 says “Great crowd in heaven”. That’s very clear. Doesnt day hes in heaven hearing them on the earth.

      If I said “I heard the voice of a class of kids in heaven” where would would say they are? Heaven. Simple.

      Also again show me where jesus offered earth to Christians.

    • Christopher Johns

      Of course no one saw God. But he heard the voice of a great crowd IN HEAVEN. Not “while I was in heaven.”

    • Christopher Johns

      The great crowd are before (enopion) the throne. Rev 7:9

      The 144,000 are before (enopion) the throne. Rev 14:3

      Both are before the throne. That completely overthrow the whole “on earth in sight of the throne”

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    The sound is in heaven. The great crowd are in unison with the words Praise Jah!

    Rev. Says they come throught great tribulation. Palm branches in hand. The spirits in heaven dont have palm branches in hand. Also spirits dont drink living waters in heaven. And when Rev. 7:9-17 takes place on earth, the marriage of the bride in heaven has already taken place.

    • Chris Johns

      So if John was saying he heard them and they weren’t in heaven it would read “I heard the voice of a great crowd while I was in heaven.” If I say “I heard the mistake screaming in the bwdroom” where would you say they were? In the living room? No. “GREAT CROWD IN HEAVEN” NOT “from heaven” you’re trying to split hairs. Show me again where Jesus offered an earthly hope and heavenly hope to his followers. Youve avoided that question a lot.

    • Christopher Johns

      The palm branches cant be symbolic? How do you know that those who have them arent in heaven. Rutherford said that they are in heaven becasue more than 144,000 were joining.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.
    In my distress I called on Jehovah, To my God I kept crying for help. From his temple he heard my voice, And my cry for help reached his ears. Ps 18:6
    And when you spread out your palms, I hide my eyes from you. Although you offer many prayers, I am not listening; Your hands are filled with blood. Isaiah 1:15

    Jehovah God has the power to listen and not listen to people from heaven. So after he destroys Babylon the Great He receives praise and thank you from the great crowd in which he allows the praise in heaven but it comes from earth. Here is your clue verse 3 , And right away for the second time that said: “Praise Jah!” And the smoke of her goes on ascending forever and ever .

    Babylon the Greats smoke ascends forever, this bad group is on earth not in bug raven, destroyed on earth not in heaven and smoke from earth not in heaven keeps ascending from her, down here on earth not in heaven.

    • Chris Johns


      The scripture line quotes said he heard him FROM his temple. Meaning Jehovah was in heaven.

      Rev 19:1 says he heard them IN heaven.

      Rev 7 shows they serve him IN his temple. The Greek word NAOS. Look up the scripture in your Kingdom Interlinear. It says “Divine Habitation.”

  • I am going to spend time in bible study. I need to make changes in my life. God is love that is what his spirit is. The end of gentile times means many things to many PEOPLE. I will study. I love Jehovah i wish i could love people the way i love him may be one day i will.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Common English bible 7:13 Note the question. Who are these people wearing white robes, and where did they come from? The anointed John, the spirit begotten John, the chosen one John, did not know the answer. 14 These people(not spirits) come out of great hardship.

    So easy to see I am left with the question.Does a person see it but refuses to except it?

    • Chris Johns

      Rev 19:1 “After these things I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven…”

      Simple. I dont need to split hairs to find that words like “people” mean earthly hope.

      Show me again where Jesus offered two distinct salvation to the church. And show me a Lords evening meal that had people that passed it by becasue they had an earthly hope.

      I’ll wait.

    • Chris Johns

      Why are the great crowd following the Bride into the palace?

      Psalms 35″13-15

      “The King’s daughter is all glorious within; Her clothing is interwoven with gold. She will be led to the King in embroidered work; The virgins, her companions who follow her, Will be brought to You. They will be led forth with gladness and rejoicing; They will enter into the King’s palace.

    • Chris Johns


      Rev 19:1 NWT
      “19 After this I heard what seemed to be a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: “Praise Jah! The salvation and the glory and the power belong to our God…”

      Rev 7:9-10
      “After this I saw, and look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, dressed in white robes; and there were palm branches in their hands. 10 And they keep shouting with a loud voice, saying: “Salvation we owe to our God….”

      Notice how the Great Crowd is in heaven in 19:1 and they both say the same thing.

  • Dave

    Thank you for your comments Chris.

    Rev. 21:3 Look! The tent of God is with mankind
    Psalms 15:1,2,O Jehovah, who will be a quest in your tent? Who will reside in your holy mountain? Isaiah 2:3 And many peoples will go and say: Come, you people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah.
    Back to Rev.21 talking about who are under the tent of God. Verse 6, To anyone thirsting I will give from the fountain of the water of life free.
    These are not the 144,000 who are in heaven. 19:8 the end, the holy ones.
    Now note Rev. 7:9 no man was able to number, catch it no man. If they were in heaven of coarse no man could number spirits, their invisible to mans eyes.)their people out of all nations. Where did they come from? Came out of the great tribulation, the holy ones are already in heaven.keep in mind this group is in the beginning of the 1000 years, the ones in Rev. 21 are after Satans final attack and proved faithful. And reme.ber what God was giving them? Fountain of the water of life free.

    Verse 15,and the One seated on the throne will spread his tent over them. Remember end of 1000 years after final test on peoples, verse 3,the tent of God?

    17, the Lamb will shepherd them. You know fully well, the 144,000 clothes with immortality in heaven have no need for shepherding, but these sinners do and the Lamb is doing what at the beginning of the 1000 years. He will guide them to fountains of waters of life.last sentence, And God will wipe out every tear from their eyes. Read Rev. 21:3-5

    • Chris Johns

      I’m not going do a scripture tip-for-tat. I used to be a JW. I used to look for arguements to show that I was a proud JW and no one else had the truth but us. I was a mean JW. Once God called me I learned the Truth and I was set free from the bondage to an organization. When an organization says “Come to Jehovah’s Organization for salvation” and that the Bible belongs to the organization no matter how much you believe you can interpret it. Thatd a red flag. Jesus never taught organization. The bible teaches that the Ark is Christ but your religion reaches it’s the organization then you have become Babylon. I know your line of thought and how I was in there for 6 years and it took humbling me to admit how wrong I was. The Truth isnt first everyone. I believed I had the truth as JW. But once you are spirit begotten you know the truth. I used all those scriptures you did Rev 19:1 shows they are in heaven. It directly says that. Psalms 45: 13-15 shows the entering the palace with the bride. That’s a direct statement. So you can believe it or you can stand on a proud JW and rejoice in your organization (which hides more child pedophiles) and believe what you wish. But I believed I had the truth. Then Jehovah showed me I was wrong.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s . Did you see the problems with those 2 verses?

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Rev. 19:7,8, Let us rejoice and celebrate, and give him the glory, for the wedding day of the Lamb has come,and his bride has made herself ready. She was given fine, pure white linen to wear, for the fine linen is the saints acts of justice.
    Do you agree, this is Jesus the Lamb along with herself the bride of 144,000?

    • Chris Johns

      Yes. The bride is in heaven. Notice how in Psalm 45 tye bride is described in verse 13 and 14. Then the “virgin companions” are the great company and BOTH go into the palace. Here is the text.

      “The King’s daughter is all glorious within; Her clothing is interwoven with gold.
      She will be led to the King in embroidered work; The virgins, her companions who follow her, Will be brought to You. They will be led forth with gladness and rejoicing; They will enter into the King’s palace.”
      Psalms 45:13-‬15

      This definitely describes the bride and her companions. In the Paraboe of the Wise and Foolish virgins they are calsoncalled virgins but were negligent and were not with the bridegroom when he came to collect his bride.

      And the great Crowd in Rev 19:1 is said to be in heaven the great crowd are eventually overcomeers. How can Rev 19:1 show they are in heaven unless the were first spirit-begotten? But we dont believe there is a calling to this great crowd. In the Gospel Age there is only one call to the high calling. Jesus never offered a two-hope system. Jesus never taught that there was a group of Earthly Christian’s and a Group of Heavenly Christian’s. He came and always preached about the kingdom of the heavens. We don’t find any Christian’s in the bible with an earthly hope. The earth is for the restitution class and those who lived before the high calling. You said that you have the Studies in the Scriptures. The first volume explains it all. It blew my mind. And let’s say for argument sake that the great crowd is on the earth. It doesn’t bother me because neither Jesus nor the apostles taught about us running for that. The JWs are right in saying that the Bible is written for the anointed. This is true. Because there is no other class of Christian’s being called.

      Jeremiah 8:20 states “The harvest is past, the summer has ended, and we are not saved.” These we believe are the great company. Once the bride is complete they will know this.

      Im always here to answer your questions. 😊

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