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  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, If most of what Rutherford taught has been changed since his death then why would it have been wrong for the bible students to... } – Mar 29, 1:23 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Thank you for the reply. I have looked at the spiritual thing that took place. Have most of the books that came... } – Mar 29, 10:30 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, There's a difference between messing up and being truly repentant and what Rutherford did. He was dismissed by Russell. Then he used his legal... } – Mar 29, 6:57 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Judge Rutherford had many women and died from falling down drunk. After his death his wife spoke about all of this. Look up facts... } – Mar 29, 6:43 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Third Judge Rutherford. What an honor to work in the preaching with someone who was baptized while the Judge was still alive.... } – Mar 29, 3:52 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. King David, no need to mention the mistakes that he made. Highlight the fact he was one of 6 good kings out... } – Mar 29, 3:16 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Rutherford knew what he was doing. He took over and changed it into a high control group. Sorry freedom is in Christ. Not fear... } – Mar 28, 9:53 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Thank you Criss. Will start will King Solomon. Blessed by Jehovah with wisdom I fail to fully, not even close grasp . But in reading... } – Mar 28, 9:34 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, We believe Rutherford was part of the evil servant. He took freedom in christ and made you have to obey an organization. Smh. } – Mar 28, 7:07 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Atrocities!!! 1. King David 2. King Solomon 3. Judge Rutherford Rank them in order and why. } – Mar 28, 6:02 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Again where did jesus offer a two class system? The earth is for restored world of mankind and those who lived before pentecost. Jesus... } – Mar 28, 11:22 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Sorry. Nowhere does it show that thebyrrat crowd is on earth. Rev 19:1 says they are in heaven. Twist it with any other scripture but... } – Mar 28, 11:20 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave Rev 5:13 "And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea,... } – Mar 28, 11:19 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, It doesn't validate your case. Rev 19:1 "Great Crowd in heaven." If I told you that I heard a scream in the house would... } – Mar 28, 11:17 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Rev. 5:13 validates my case. In heaven. Note who they were saying it to. To the One sitting on the throne and... } – Mar 28, 10:46 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave Jesus and the 144,000 didnt help you make anyhring. Show me where jesus offered an earthly hope to anyone. You cant. Because he didnt.... } – Mar 27, 7:17 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Yes millions fall short. The way us called NARROW and FEW are the ones finding it. Many don't make it. Remember the foolish virgins.... } – Mar 27, 7:15 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Yet again. Where did Jesus ever show a Christian an earthly hope? He didnt. Which is why you always point to Isaiah and psalms... } – Mar 27, 7:14 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Then I saw three unclean spirits,like frogs come from the dragons mouth,the beast's mouth and the mouth of the false prophet. These... } – Mar 27, 7:11 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Rutherford built a mansion called Beth Sarim becasue be taught in 1925 that the ancient worthies were going to return and live in San... } – Mar 27, 6:49 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Thank you for your thoughts.You have a problem with your thinking, let me share. Will get back to you with it got to run, in... } – Mar 27, 6:11 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave The great crowd are anointed that didn’t make it. If no man can number the great crowd then your organization is wrong in showing... } – Mar 27, 5:42 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, The great crowd are anointed that didn’t make it. If no man can number the great crowd then your organization is wrong in showing... } – Mar 27, 5:41 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, And those who stayed fell into apostasy. Like those who followed the Catholic Church. The true church always existed outside even during the apostasy.... } – Mar 27, 5:38 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Thank you for your time. Will leave you with a thing that is definitely the case. Which is the meaning of fact.... } – Mar 27, 3:19 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, This is where I end. If you want to Live on the Earth and that's fine. But just now Jesus never taught anyone to... } – Mar 27, 2:37 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { John the Baptist died before spirit begetal. Jesus never offered two setsbif salvation. The ancient worthies will live on the earth. After spirit begettal there... } – Mar 27, 2:35 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, This shows that you you dont know what you are talking about. The Chicago group and Australian group are like saying "South Atlanta Congregation... } – Mar 27, 2:34 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Acts chapter 4 shows great increase to about 5,000. Let's say each year 365 days each anointed one preaches and teaches one... } – Mar 27, 1:27 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Anonymous Sodom had many people who died, probaly had very bad lives. It will be better for them on resurrection day compared to those cities... } – Mar 27, 12:06 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { John 10:16 are gentiles that he would go to to make them part of the little flock. That's why the message of galatians is about... } – Mar 27, 12:05 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, His spirit is with us. That's why he spirit begat us and we see through the control tactics he used. 75% of the bible... } – Mar 27, 12:02 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Liz. Like all anointed ones, Brother Rutherford was immperfect. You asked about his good. He got the studies and read them and came in... } – Mar 27, 11:53 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Incorrect nowhere does this say they are an earthly class. John 10:16 are gentiles that will br brought in. And those in the millennium.... } – Mar 27, 11:51 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Dictionary on the word fold.(fold something in or into) mix one ingredient gently with another Also, a group or community. Listen to... } – Mar 27, 11:39 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Can you show me a non-anointed Christian in the bible. Where did jesus set out two Hope's? } – Mar 27, 10:48 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Again show me where jesus offered two Hope's for Christians. You cant. Becasue he didnt. So when you go door to door you're preaching... } – Mar 27, 10:47 AM
  • User AvatarDave { See that you do not refuse to listen to the one who is speaking. For if those who refused to listen to the one giving... } – Mar 27, 9:08 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Psalms 150:1 Praise Jah! Praise God in his holy place. Rev. 19:1 150:2 Praise him for his mighty works. Rev. 15:3 Psalm... } – Mar 27, 8:29 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Psalms was not written for the Christian’s hope. Jesus opened a new and living way again where did jesus offer an earthly hope hope... } – Mar 26, 9:53 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Psalms was not written for the Christian's hope. Jesus opened a new and living way again where did jesus offer an earthly hope hope... } – Mar 26, 9:52 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Psalms 45. Do we agree Jesus is the king? Do we agree verse 10 is spiritual Israel, the 144,000? Do we agree... } – Mar 26, 9:51 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Gen. 6:11 But the earth had become ruined in the sight of the true God, and the earth was filled with violence.... } – Mar 26, 9:17 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Matthew 5:5 Psalms 37:11,29, John 10:16 Happy are the mild tempered since they will inherit the earth. But the meek will possess... } – Mar 26, 9:04 PM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Dear Bro Christopher,You as a ex Witness like myself were blinded by them(The G/Body)Into believing that the great Multitude(G/company)were a Earthly Class.But it is so... } – Mar 26, 7:36 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, "And there was opened the temple of God that is in heaven." Revelation 11:19 "Therefore are they before the throne of God; and they... } – Mar 26, 6:40 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Rev 19:1. IN HEAVEN. Not FROM HEAVEN. Where does mankind serve Jehovah in the temple? The great multitude does. 😊 } – Mar 26, 6:34 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, You're refusing to answer my question. Where did jesus ever offer two Hope's for Christian's? Where does jesus offer an earthly hope for Christian's.... } – Mar 26, 6:33 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Good job on 14:3 Why? Look where verse1 says Jesus and 144,000 are. Verse 2 John hears sound coming out of heaven--where... } – Mar 26, 6:19 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { The great crowd are before (enopion) the throne. Rev 7:9 The 144,000 are before (enopion) the throne. Rev 14:3 Both are before the throne. That... } – Mar 26, 3:28 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Of course no one saw God. But he heard the voice of a great crowd IN HEAVEN. Not "while I was in heaven." } – Mar 26, 3:23 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, What does Isaiah 6:1 have to do with the great crowd. Jehovah is sitting on the throne in heaven. Rev 19:1 says "Great crowd... } – Mar 26, 3:22 PM
  • User AvatarKevin Davis { I go to PRAYER for the transfer of WEALTH from the wicked to Gods people. The devil has RULED for to long. Faith can move... } – Mar 26, 3:04 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Hi Chris's Johns. Isaiah chapter 6:1. I saw Jehovah sitting on a loft and elevated throne. 1 Kings 22:19 Micaiah then said: I saw Jehovah... } – Mar 26, 2:20 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, The palm branches cant be symbolic? How do you know that those who have them arent in heaven. Rutherford said that they are in... } – Mar 26, 2:01 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, So if John was saying he heard them and they weren't in heaven it would read "I heard the voice of a great crowd... } – Mar 26, 12:20 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. The sound is in heaven. The great crowd are in unison with the words Praise Jah! Rev. Says they come throught great... } – Mar 26, 11:52 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave. The scripture line quotes said he heard him FROM his temple. Meaning Jehovah was in heaven. Rev 19:1 says he heard them IN heaven.... } – Mar 26, 10:12 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. In my distress I called on Jehovah, To my God I kept crying for help. From his temple he heard my voice,... } – Mar 26, 7:55 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave Rev 19:1 NWT "19 After this I heard what seemed to be a loud voice of a great crowd in heaven. They said: “Praise... } – Mar 25, 5:02 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Sorry Psalm 45:13-15 } – Mar 25, 4:44 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Why are the great crowd following the Bride into the palace? Psalms 35"13-15 "The King’s daughter is all glorious within; Her clothing is interwoven... } – Mar 25, 4:44 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Rev 19:1 "After these things I heard something like a loud voice of a great multitude in heaven..." Simple. I dont need to split... } – Mar 25, 4:42 PM
  • User AvatarKevin davis { I am going to spend time in bible study. I need to make changes in my life. God is love that is what his spirit... } – Mar 25, 4:08 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Common English bible 7:13 Note the question. Who are these people wearing white robes, and where did they come from? The anointed... } – Mar 25, 4:00 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, I'm not going do a scripture tip-for-tat. I used to be a JW. I used to look for arguements to show that I was... } – Mar 25, 2:52 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Thank you for your comments Chris. Rev. 21:3 Look! The tent of God is with mankind Psalms 15:1,2,O Jehovah, who will be a quest in... } – Mar 25, 2:23 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Yes. The bride is in heaven. Notice how in Psalm 45 tye bride is described in verse 13 and 14. Then the "virgin companions"... } – Mar 25, 1:14 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's . Did you see the problems with those 2 verses? } – Mar 25, 12:52 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Rolando, Oh ok. It's on the Dawn Website } – Mar 25, 12:48 PM
  • User AvatarROLANDO RODRIGUEZ { The Grace of Jehovah } – Mar 25, 12:04 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Rev. 19:7,8, Let us rejoice and celebrate, and give him the glory, for the wedding day of the Lamb has come,and his... } – Mar 25, 11:06 AM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Rolando, What booklet are you talking about? } – Mar 25, 7:19 AM
  • User AvatarROLANDO RODRIGUEZ { Back in the early 1990s I actually updated this booklets, since it was outdated and refuted JW doctrines that they no longer believed. The booklet... } – Mar 24, 10:20 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, Thanks for your response. I as well have all of Rutherfords Books and Paul SL Johnson. Yes we believe the world of mankind is... } – Mar 24, 11:05 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. I have his studies, even a nice copy of the photo drama of creation. Also have most of Rutherfords books. Sadly for... } – Mar 23, 8:14 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, I used to be a Jehovahs Witness. I loved it. But I read CT Russell' Divine Plan of the Ages! It changed my life... } – Mar 23, 6:30 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, So you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses? } – Mar 23, 6:13 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Are you a prodigal son? If so welcome back. } – Mar 23, 5:42 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Even thought we have not met, my prays are for all the brothers and sisters around the world . Your included, now let's say Jehovah... } – Mar 23, 5:40 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Governing Body doesn't have your fears. It is a safety protection for all. My wife and I had a anointed sister and her daughter stay... } – Mar 23, 5:36 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Why are the last anointed one? } – Mar 23, 5:25 PM
  • User AvatarDave { Hi Tapio If you would like to discuss the Gentile times I would be happy to. For 28 years ctr said it was coming .... } – Mar 23, 4:23 PM
  • User AvatarKevin Davis { Kingdom hall of altavista elders made a wise decision to close. During this time of sickness coming thru our town. Good job elders. They have... } – Mar 23, 4:19 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Thank you. } – Mar 23, 3:01 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Dave, April 7, 2020. } – Mar 23, 12:53 PM
  • User AvatarDave { What is the Lords evening meal date this year? } – Mar 23, 12:51 PM
  • User AvatarKevin davis { The bible talks about the transfer of wealth from the wicked to to the righteous. I will have food soon. My oil is full now.... } – Mar 23, 9:28 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Simeon has related how God first concerned Himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for His name. With this the words of the... } – Mar 22, 6:33 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { He didnt go out to argue. When some came to him he could argue. Not go out to tru to refute. Jesus took on the... } – Mar 22, 6:27 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Think if he read this to them the Jews. Because of our sins and the wrong doing of our parents, both Jerusalem... } – Mar 22, 10:27 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Did you see in my last post, Apollo's was not afraid to argue with the Jews over scripture? } – Mar 22, 10:23 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To All. Did Apollos have the heavenly call? If answer is yes, 1. Was it when he believed? 2. Was he a chosen one on... } – Mar 22, 10:20 AM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. Yes billions will be resurrected. Romans 6:23; 3:23. But Jesus and the bride are going to bring removal of those Jesus judges... } – Mar 21, 9:25 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Well Dave. I hope you keep searching and God bless your studies. Im not going to argue with anyone in scripture. It gets nowhere. So... } – Mar 21, 9:24 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Grammar corrected. Dave, God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to the gentiles to gather the rest of the bride.... } – Mar 21, 9:17 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to to the gentiles to gather the rest if the bride. Again... } – Mar 21, 9:15 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to to the gentiles to gather the rest if the bride. Again... } – Mar 21, 9:15 PM
  • User AvatarDave { To Christopher John's. The spirit and bride are speaking to any who are willing to listen. Remember Acts 17:30 EVERYONE!!! EVERYWHERE!!! It is that simple,... } – Mar 21, 9:09 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Dave, Yes there will be people who die in Armageddon. However your missing a huge chunk of the bible. All are going to be resurrected... } – Mar 21, 9:08 PM
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  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    I have his studies, even a nice copy of the photo drama of creation. Also have most of Rutherfords books. Sadly for some they don’t get the new light. They get stuck in the mud.The Common Bible reads, The way of the righteous is like morning light that gets brighter and brighter till it is full day. The path of the wicked is like deep darkness they dont know where they will stumble. Proverbs 4:18,19.
    What is the difference between the bible and the studies?
    The bible is inspired by God. The studies are not inspired. What happened with ctr? He partnered with Nelson Barbour, who then went differnt, they split. Get the first 6 issues of the Watch Tower. They put the writers names in there. Most if not all left ctr quite quickly. 1907 , 1909, two big fall aways. 1914 when end did not happen many fell away. Why? Because what ctr had them believe didnt happen. Did that mean ctr was not used by Jehovah? No! Remember John chapter 6, Jesus made a statement, a bunch left him. Who was right? Jesus, but Jesus new they were following him for the wrong reason, otherwise he would have went and explained everything to them, but he didn’t. John 5:39 he showed bible students, but he showed them false! Why were they false? Verse 42 Jesus says, but I know you, that you don’t have God’s love in you.
    Now, as myself I’m here to give option as what Comes to my mind. Not to say any here don’t have God’s love in them. No man on earth now can read hearts. My belief is if living back then you would have found me reading his writings and hope maybe being a colporture. Bust most importantly cling to Jehovah so when we went through those sittings would have remained faithful. And yes ctr always said present truth, very opened to new understanding. Look what he went through, those fall outs all the time, his wife visiting groups and when he put a stop to her power grab she divorced him. And guess who got the studies and believed in them? Judge Rutherford. Who ctr used often. As to him or Moses or any human thinking they know all about Jehovah and no need to learn more. Eccl.3:11 God has made everything fitting in it’s time, but has also placed eternity in their hearts, without enabling them to discover what God has done from beginning to end. Just think at the time Satan is destroyed and the last enemy is done also.
    Look what Rev. 21:5 Then the One seated on the throne said, Look! I’m making all things new. Plus while the anointed at Rev. 20:6 along with Jesus all 144,001 will help us on earth learn more new things, from scrolls were opened. Another scroll was opened too; this is the scroll of life, and you anointed with Jesus will be judging me and many others. 20:12
    If I make it, Right now Thank my God Jehovah, His Son His beloved who He said we should listen to, the Angel’s helping in preaching work. Rev. 14:6 and the 144,000 kings and priests. Rev. 20:6

    Try and read volume 6 of ctr. He shows disfellowshipping. And the great crowd of underachiever. They belie ed back then they would go to heaven and serve 144,000. Where is the bible students great crowd of underachievers?

    Have a great night.

    • Christopher Johns

      Dave,
      Thanks for your response. I as well have all of Rutherfords Books and Paul SL Johnson. Yes we believe the world of mankind is not on trial right now. After Adam sinned the world of mankind is under the death sentence of Adam. Only when one is called and consecrates themselves and is spirit begotten is the merit of Christ imputed to them. They then are released from the Adamic sentence and now do not die the Adamic Death but a sacrificial death. The world is still under sentence of Adam. When they are resurrected then they will no longer die because of Adam but die die for their own sins. God is only calling the bride right now. Where this all took a turn was in the October 15, 1923 Watch Tower when the Parable of the Sheep and Goats was shifted from the MILLENNIAL age to the GOSPEL age. Thus shoving everyone off into second death that didnt accept Rutherfords Message. There is no great crowd being called. The bible says there is only ONE CALLING in the Gospel Age. Jesus never came with a two-hope system. Never do we find some of the first century Christians partaking and the other passing the emblems by. We dont see any Christian’s in the first century with earthly hope. Before pentecost the only hope was earthly. Then Jesus came and opened up a new and living way. He never offered an earthly hope for Christians. Thats purely and invention of Rutherford in 1935. The WT today teaches the great crowd is an earthly class. This not Biblical. The Bible says there is only one calling. Not two. No one can come to christ unless God calls them. When one is called and accepts this invitation will follow in the steps of christ. Just like christthey agree to lay down their life in sacrifice. They,like jesus, CANNOT take their earthly life back. It was laid down in sacrifice. Therefore they will be reprimanded to the great company class or second death. They cannot take back their earthly body that they agreed in a covenant with God to lay down. The rest of the world will have their chance for life in the millennium. Jesus death guarantees every human one resurrection. Those who have been released from this are Adamic death are the anointed only. The rest of the world will be brought back in the millennium having forever lost the prize of gaining joint heirship with christ. Nowhere does christ offer ANY of his followers the hope of living on earth. That is for the general restitution class. The great multitude are said to serve God before the throne. Now the WT says the word “enopion” means standing in approved condition. However angels and the 144,000 are also said to be “enopion”. Here are so scriptures showing that the word enopion is in heaven.
      Revelation 1:4 – “seven spirits that are before (enopion) his [God’s] throne, ….” 
      Revelation 4:5 – “seven lamps of fire burning before (enopion) the throne [of God], ….” 
      Revelation 4:10 – “the twenty-four elders fall down before (enopion) the One seated upon the throne…, and they cast their crowns before (enopion) the throne, ….” 
      Revelation 5:8 – “And when he took the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before (enopion) the Lamb, having each one a harp and golden bowls that were full of incense, and the means the prayers of the holy ones.” 
      Revelation 8:3 – “And another angel arrived and stood at the altar, having … incense … to offer … with the prayers of all the holy ones upon the golden altar that was before (enopion) the throne.” 
      Revelation 9:13 – “And I heard one voice out of the horns of the golden altar that is before (enopion) God.” 
      Revelation 11:16 – “And the twenty-four elders who were seated before (enopion) God

      The great crowd are said to serve God day and night in his temple. The word temple here is “naos”. It means according to the Kingdom Interlinear “Divine Habitation”. It always refers to the Most Holy of the temple or tabernacle. The most holy of the tabernacle represents heaven. Never to an earthly courtyard. In the Society in the early 80’s many started to see that the great crown was heavenly and disfellowshipping went on. A pamphlet was published and circulated. It has been reprinted and proves that the WT has mislead many about the great crown using their own publications. It’s not available online that I know of but is published in the back of the new edition of “Crisis of Conscience” by ray franz.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Thank you.

  • Dave

    What is the Lords evening meal date this year?

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Think if he read this to them the Jews. Because of our sins and the wrong doing of our parents, both Jerusalem and your people have become a disgrace to all our neighbors. Daniel 9:16

    • Chris Johns

      Simeon has related how God first concerned Himself about taking from among the Gentiles a people for His name. With this the words of the Prophets agree, just as it is written, ‘A fter these things I will return, A nd I will rebuild the tabernacle of D avid which has fallen , A nd I will rebuild its ruins , A nd I will restore it , S o that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord , A nd all the G entiles who are called by M y name ,’
      Acts 15:15-17

      Notice the progress. Take people people out from gentiles. Then rebuilt Israel (Tabernacle of David) THEN THEN THEN the residue or men will seek God.

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    Did you see in my last post, Apollo’s was not afraid to argue with the Jews over scripture?

    • Chris Johns

      He didnt go out to argue. When some came to him he could argue. Not go out to tru to refute. Jesus took on the pharisees when they challenged him hit he didnt go looking for them to argue with. Please dont look for excuses. I used to be a JW and used that same line of arguements fo justify my ignorance.

  • Dave

    To All.

    Did Apollos have the heavenly call? If answer is yes, 1. Was it when he believed?
    2. Was he a chosen one on arriving in Ephesus where it says he was well educated and effective in his use of the scriptures? Consider to this question, He had been instructed in the way of the Lord and spoke as one stirred up by the spirit. He taught accurately the things about Jesus, even though he was aware only of the baptism John proclaimed and practiced. He began speaking with confidence in the synagogue.
    Is he anointed or chosen yet??

    Then two Christian’s welcomed him in and explained to him God’s way more accurately. He would vigorously defeat Jewish arguments in public debate,using the scriptures to prove that Jesus was the Christ.
    Correct me if I’m wrong. Was this about 50to 55c.e.? And, dod he have to get rebatized in Jesus name like Paul did too 12 in Acts 19 then played hands on them 12 and they received holy spirit which they all them years didnt even know existed.
    Will appreciate lots of feed back.
    When if yes did Apollo get anointed?

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s. Yes billions will be resurrected. Romans 6:23; 3:23. But Jesus and the bride are going to bring removal of those Jesus judges as not worth to enter the beginning of the 1000 years. Acts 17:31 And brother Russell taught that a great crowd of underachiever would be saved. WHY???
    Because they listened to the Spirit and bride at Rev. 22:17 they heard the words come and then they studied bible and they told others to come.

  • Chris Johns

    Well Dave. I hope you keep searching and God bless your studies. Im not going to argue with anyone in scripture. It gets nowhere. So I’ll leave it here. Have a great night.

  • Chris Johns

    Dave,
    God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to to the gentiles to gather the rest if the bride. Again in Rev 21:17 who is the bride telling to come is they are all in hell? Tye world will have their trial in the millennium. The books for judging arent even open until the end of the 1000 years!!

    Read this passage. If we reign with christ for 1000 years and this is the only say to be saved why is satan let back out to test the nations again?

    “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
    Revelation 20:6‭-‬8

  • Dave

    To Christopher John’s.

    The spirit and bride are speaking to any who are willing to listen. Remember Acts 17:30 EVERYONE!!!
    EVERYWHERE!!!
    It is that simple, do what Ezekiel says.
    18:23 last part, if they change their ways they will live.

    • Chris Johns

      Dave,
      God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to to the gentiles to gather the rest if the bride. Again in Rev 21:17 who is the bride telling to come is they are all in hell? Tye world will have their trial in the millennium. The books for judging arent even open until the end of the 1000 years!!

      Read this passage. If we reign with christ for 1000 years and this is the only say to be saved why is satan let back out to test the nations again?

      “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
      Revelation 20:6‭-‬8

    • Chris Johns

      Grammar corrected.

      Dave,
      God wants us all to be saved. However he is only going to the gentiles to gather the rest of the bride. Again in Rev 21:17 who is the bride telling to come if the rest are all in hell? The world will have their trial in the millennium. The books for judging aren’t even open until the end of the 1000 years!!

      Read this passage. If we reign with christ for 1000 years and this is the only day to be saved why is satan let back out to test the nations again?

      “Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
      Revelation 20:6‭-‬8

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