We worship Jehovah. We do NOT worship any false Gods, any idols, any non-scriptural ideologies. We are to worship our Heavenly Father, Jehovah God. Let’s examine briefly Matthew 4:10 and Luke 4:8. “It is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”
That seems pretty clear – We should worship and serve the Lord our God. Should we not worship Christ? There are differences of opinion among Christians about that very thing. What say the scriptures?
The story of the angels announcing to the shepherds the arrival of a Savior is found in Luke 2 verses 10 through 20. The Shepherds went to see the babe in the manger. They did not worship this young Savior but when they left they glorified and praised God. No problem here. But there’s more.
Jesus was about two years old when the wise men paid him a visit. Matthew 2 verse 11 says – And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh. Jesus was being worshipped at age of 2. We read nothing in the passage that the wise men were criticised by God or Mary and Joseph, for worshipping the toddler.
Matthew 28:9 says – Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. Jesus did not rebuke these disciples for worshipping him.
Matthew 20:20 – Then came to him the mother of Zebedee’s children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. Again, Jesus did not rebuke Zebedee’s wife but instead, explained the situation to her.
Notice that in this last text, the worship was followed by a petition – for a woman’s sons to be in prominent positions in the Kingdom.
Stephen also petitioned our risen lord. Acts 7:59 reads – And as they were stoning Stephen, he prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. RSV
Hebrews 1:6 says – And again, when he bringeth in the first begotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.
And this next text seems to be a clincher when considering whether or not to worship our risen Lord. Philippians 2:8-11 says – “8 And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. 9 Therefore also God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus, every knee should bow, of those who are in heaven, and on earth, and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.”
We also can conclude that it is perfectly okay to worship our risen Lord and to petition him for spiritual things. But here is where we need to be careful. We don’t know the heart of the woman just mentioned. Was the object of her worship to get what she petitioned for? Or was she fully committed to Christ and would accept however Jesus responded? Much the same as Abraham did.
We absolutely cannot judge her, but we can use her as an example.
We do not want to give you the impression that we should only worship and pray to our risen Lord. To me it is clear – worship and prayers are appropriate to either the Father or the Son.
Brethren, worship is such a vital part of our Christian walk. Worship does indeed have many facets. But the thing I learned in this study is this: All the parts of worship that we have been talking about are not the end all. Worship is more a state of heart and mind, not necessarily making sure we do each of the things mentioned perfectly.
We can be instant in prayer, we can sing beautiful hymns, we can sacrifice some of our life for our Brethren, we can, praise God when something really good happens to us or our brethren, we can bow during prayers and so forth. However, it just might behoove us to:
Pray without ceasing, have a song in my heart all the time, be ready to sacrifice our life for the Brethren at any given time, praise the Lord for all things all the time, even the trials, and I can bow my heart all the time, even when no one is praying at that time. In other words, worship is not just a list of things we should do. Worship is having these principles in our hearts all the time.
By Brother Dave Christiansen
Then I guess that makes Moses and Abraham and Angels God because they are also called God. Hmmmm
But they were never properly called “my God” – but Jesus was because He is the true God.
I’ve heard all these generic arguments. They are not your own. So if you want to believe in the fake doctrine of the trinity go ahead. Ive debated this for years and your arguements are just parroted. So you have fun. I’ll believe the truth.
Marc
Marc,
None of what you said proved the trinity.
1. John 20:28 was said to Jesus becasue jesus was raised to the Divine nature. He did not posses this nature before his birth. Even right before John 20:17 jesus said he was ascending to His God. God doesnt have a God. God is a divine being and Jesus was raised to the Divine nature. We are also promised this divine nature and will be deity as well and be addressed as God.
2. If Jesus was God and the trinity were to be said to be true it would said there us one God FATHER SON HOLY SPIRIT. Yet it doesn’t. And Lord is a subservient title. Sorry I’m very aware of the superficial argument “Well then Jehovah isnt Lord becasue it said there is one Lord. So if God can also be Lord then Jesus can be God” no. The Bible said that God made Jesus Lord of All. Acts 2:36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.” This is the Lord is talking about.
3. Worship depends on context. The king was worshipped in 1 Chron 29:20
“and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the LORD, and the king.” In the Greek Septuagent it has the same word “proskenaeo” that is used if Jesus. It just means to pay homage.
4. You cannot break apart the statements.of Jesus into “well this is referring to his humanity and this one to his diety.” Jesus was a corresponding price to adam. Jesus was not a God-man. He was not a spirit in a body. He left his spiritual nature and became a man. He was a CARNATION not an Incarnation. Funny when the arguements contradict the trinity it becomes “well that’s his human and that is his diety.” Jesus said after his ressurection that he is ascending to His God. God doesnt have a God. John 5:26 doesn’t refer to his humanity nature. Becasue or said JUST AS the father has life in himself. It means immortality. If it refers only to his divine nature. Not before. Jesus as a human didnt have immortality. Of it doesnt mean immortality then jesus was a human has something his father does but yet he still died! Is God liable to death as well? No!
Chris,
1. Thomas still referred to Jesus as “my God” which was always to be done to the true God. A strict monotheistic Jew would never refer to someone other than the true God as “my God” – and yet that is exactly what he referred to the Lord Jesus as.
2. Lord can be a subservient title based on the context, but it is not used this way in reference to the Lord Jesus since “Lord” (YHWH) of the Old Testament is applied unto Him in:
Romans 10:13
1 Peter 2:3
1 Peter 3:15
3. The king was not worshiped in 1 Chronicles 29:20
https://www.christforums.com/forums/topic/27764-david-was-not-worshiped-in-1-chronicles-2920/?tab=comments#comment-99479
4. The Bible records that Jesus is both God and man. What some have done is deny His humanity but affirm His Deity, while others do the opposite. They deny His Deity but affirm His humanity. It is not an either/or, but a both/and. He is Gd and man.
A man (and only a man) is not to be the recipient of prayers by all Christians – but yet Jesus is (1 Corinthians 1:2) because He is God.
Abraham is called God. Angels are called God. Moses was said to be a God to pharaoh. Are they Jehovah as well? It seems you’ve come to argue. You believe as you wish but I’ve debated the trinity for years. Never met and arguement I haven’t heard. If it brings you peace to believe in it then so he it. We used to be trinitarians and woke up.
No one else but the true God is to be referred to as “my God”. Big difference. See John 20:28.
Marc
Read the following site for a grammatical refutation in this. I hope God opens your eyes to the errors. Have a great night. Done with the same old tired arguements.
http://www.followintruth.com/understanding-john-20-28-did-thomas-call-jesus-god-2
Your’e done with the same tired old arguments? Well you are done before you even addressed mine. But if you want to use that as an excuse to duck out then I won’t stop you.
Nah.
Bible- One God Father.
You – One God father Son holy spirit. Show me that one. Hmmm.
Ducking out not at all. Becasue I dont need to argue. I used to be just like you. Finding people to argue with online. It literally gets nowhere. But Ebay ok. In the millennium your eyes will be opened.
Bible- Father is greater that I am
You-Jesus IS coequal with the father.
Bible- This means everlasting life. Their knowing YOU the only true God.
You- This doesnt mean jesus isnt God.
You’ve got a jesus talking out to sides of his mouth.
Not one passage exists where believers render to the Father any kind of so-called superior worship to Him that the Lord Jesus does not receive.
Not one.
In defining “Monotheism” the Jewish Encyclopedia (1901) affirms that it entails the “worshipers of the one God and of Him alone.” (See the first paragraph)
https://www.studylight.org/encyclopedias/tje/m/monotheism.html
Again I’ll let you have the last word since it will make you feel better. I used to be just like rnst. Jehivah will open your eyes so the trinity false doctrine. Have a great night.
So then 1 Chron 29:20 shows that God and mind receive the same worship. Hmmm go ahead a google a site rnst will confirm what tlj believe. 😒😒
They do not receive “the same worship”
https://www.christforums.com/forums/topic/27764-david-was-not-worshiped-in-1-chronicles-2920/?tab=comments#comment-99479
Dear Bro Chris,you/we are wasting our time.Nowhere was Marc able to explain any scripture that says God is greater than Jesus,or why Jesus is the First Born of all creation,or why Jesus prayed to himself or why when Satan tempted him in the wilderness,He called him a Son of God.He is mislead & follows doctrines of Men.When Jesus broke the bread for the large crowd following him in Mathew 14:19 ..”and looking up to heaven he said a blessing& in the same Chapter when Peter was called to walk on the water in Verses 28:33..Peter said to Jesus:” You really are GODs Son. Not that he was God. Peter knew exactly who Jesus was! Simple, plain Language from Gods words. Also the Demons knew who Jesus was when we read the account in Mathew 8:28-32…”and look!they screamed,saying:”What have we to do with you,SON OF GOD.Funny they knew who they were in the presence of!Bro Richard.Bible Student Australia
Marc,
Joseph was honored as the second ruler in Egypt under Pharaoh. They were both honored as rulers, but were two different people. If bowing in worship at Jesus feet proves the Trinity, would you then expand the Trinity to include those worshipped below?
Isa 60:14 –all those who despised you will bow themselves at the souls of your feet; And they will call you the city of the LORD. The Zion of the Holy One of Israel. – NASV
Rev 3:9 – I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan…to come and bow down at your feet”
They were not worshiped in Isaiah 60:14. They were given obeisance. Unlike in Greek, there is no Hebrew word in the Bible for the worship due unto God alone.
They were not worshiped in Revelation 3:9. Those of the synagogue of Satan will bow down “before” their feet. In Revelation 14:3 worship was done “before” the four living creatures and the elders. This doesn’t mean they were being worshiped – only God was. Those bowing down did so in the “presence” of others but it was directed “to” God. The same holds true with Revelation 3:9. They bowed “before” their feet but the worship was directed “to” Christ.
Hello Barnabas,
You wrote, “Jesus never said we should worship him…”
The Lord Jesus did teach that He is to be worshiped by affirming that prayer can be addressed to Him (John 14:14). This is what His followers did by calling on His name in prayer (Romans 10:13; 1 Corinthians 1:2, etc.).
Hello Mark,This Scripture in Romans 10:13 is not refering to the Lord Jesus ,it is a Quote from Joel 2:32,&Is refering to the most High God Jehovah,not his son,the Christ!The problem is that Gods name which was included in the bible was taken out & substituted with Lord,That is why it is so easy to mislead people into believing in the trinity.If you read Mathew 22:44& compare it to Psalms 110:1 where it is quoted from ,It should read, ” Jehovah declared to my Lord:(Jesus)Sit at my Right hand UNTILL I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.”When jesus said ask in my Name,he was not saying to pray to him but to ask it in his name at the end of our prayer to our heavenly father,that is why we conclude our prayers in the name of Jesus christ,He is mankinds mediator,only if we ask in his name will our heavenly father answer.Richard.Tazzyman Bible student,Australia
Hello Richard,
In Romans 10:13 the context indicates that the “Lord” is in reference to the Lord Jesus. Romans 10:9 speaks of making this confession, while the “for” in Romans 10:11 connects what was previously stated to the “Him” found within the same passage. The same holds true concerning v.12 and v. 13 – the “for” connects all what was previously said to the Lord Jesus. Furthermore, the Jews had already called on the name of the Lord in reference to the Father. Paul’s point was to show them that the “Lord” (YHWH) to whom they must now cal upon in prayer is the Lord Jesus.
John 14:14
If you ask anything Me anything in My name, I will do it. (NASB)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+14%3A14&version=NASB
The asking is directly to the Lord Jesus.
Hello Mark,Just to get the Idea where you stand about the trinity,Jesus said in John 17.3-5 “This means everlasting life,their coming to know you,the only true God & the one who you sent,Jesus Christ.I have Glorified you on the earth,having finished the WORK YOU GAVE ME TO DO.So now,Father,Glorify me at YOUR SIDE with the glory thai I had ALONGSIDE YOU BEFORE THE WORLD WAS.”Regards,Richard,Bible Student Australia
Hi Richard,
Where I stand on the Trinity is that I believe that it is a true biblical teaching.
Good afternoon Marc,
I get why people believe in the Trinity. However, it is not Biblical. For example, the KJV had to add and change verses to substantiate this teaching. Foe example, 1 John 5:7 ” and these three are one.” Also, “God was manifest in the flesh” was changed from “He was manifest in the flesh’ (1 Tim 3:160.
Here are some scriptures of why I don’t believe in the trinity.
1. After Jesus was resurrected he stated “I am ascending to my God and your God.” This scripture would promote polytheism for God to have a God above him. If he had said ” I am ascending to my father and your father” ONLY it would make the trinity more accurate.
2. 1 Cor 8:6 “To us there is one God the Father… one Lord Jesus Christ.” While the trinity says “There is one God, Father, Son, Holy Spirit.”
3. John 17:3 “This means everlasting life, their knowing You the only true God and the one whom you’ve sent forth Jesus Christ.” This makes no sense in the trinity beliefs.
4. Jesus said at John 5:26 “Just as the father has life in himself, he has granted the Son to have life in himself.” How can the Almighty be given life (immortality) in himself if he is the embodiment of life?
There are many more but these are some.
Hi Chris,
I never use 1 Timothy 3:16 and 1 John 5:7 (as found in the KJV) in support of the Trinity. In terms of what you brought up:
1. Thomas referred to the Lord Jesus as “my God” in John 20:28, and Thomas was a monotheist. I know that others in the Bible can be referred to as “god” (Exodus 7:1), but notice Thomas referred to the Lord Jesus as “my God”. Virtually every time “my God” is employed in Scripture it refers to the true God with only 2 examples of this expression clearly referring to idols (cf. Isaiah 44:17; Daniel 4:8). The choice then before us is this: When Thomas referred to the Lord Jesus as “my God” did he do so believing that the Lord Jesus was the true God or an idol? To ask this question is to answer it. It was an act of worship by Thomas in reference to the Lord Jesus as “my God.”
2. See #1. Just as the Father is properly referred to as “God” (1 Corinthians 8:6), He can also be properly referred to as “Lord (Acts 4:29). Furthermore, when Paul (and others) referred to Jesus as “Lord” this meant that He is God.
3. John 17:3 does not disprove the Trinity at all because the Bible also teaches that what applies to God “alone” encompasses the Lord Jesus. God “alone” is to be worshiped (1 Samuel 7:3; Matthew 4:10), so is the Lord Jesus (Romans 10:13; 1 Corinthians 1:2, etc.). God “alone” fully knows the hearts of all (1 Kings 8:39), so does the Lord Jesus (Revelation 2:23). God “alone” created everything (Isaiah 44:24), so did the Lord Jesus (John 1:3). Notice as well that the Lord Jesus is our “only” despotēs in heaven (Jude 1:4), and yet so is the Father (Acts 4:24). All this makes sense if the Trinity is true.
4. John 5:26 is speaking of the earthly life of Jesus. Remember He chose to humble Himself and be a servant.
I cited 1 Kings 8:39 above. Couple this passage with v. 38 of the same chapter.
1 Kings 8:38-39
Whatever prayer…is made…then hear in heaven…for You alone know the hearts of all the sons of men. (NASB)
To the Jews of the Old Testament, only God can be prayed to because only God fully knows the hearts of all. Prayer is such a key factor that the main part of the Shema (Deuteronomy 6:4-5) links the one and only Lord to the fact that only He is to be the proper recipient of prayer.
Judaism 101: The Shema can also be translated as “The L-rd is our G-d, The L-rd alone,” meaning that no other is our G-d, and we should not pray to any other.
http://www.jewfaq.org/g-d.htm
Since the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer this demonstrates that He is God.
Marc
I posted an in depth reply at the end. You can’t bring up Old Testament passages and then couple them WITH NT passages and make the claim that since only God was prayed to and THEN jesus then they are the same. This is fallacy. The Bible says in Isaiah 43:11 that only Jehovah is savior. But the bible also says at 2 Kings 3:15 that God sent a savior. Does that make that savior God as well? No. After Jesus was raised to the divine nature he received Honor immortality and deity. He is not a trinity.
Certain title can be given to others but worship is never to be rendered unto others. Not only did I cite from the Old Testament but I did so from the New Testament as well (Matthew 4:10). Indeed, Revelation 15:4 uses the same word for “only” in John 17:3. Only God is holy, but notice the very next verse ties His absolute holiness to the worship that He is to receive and yet the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of worship. Thus the Lord Jesus is absolutely holy (= God).
I previously wrote that I never use 1 Timothy 3:16 in support of the Trinity, but now I do. The reason is not if “God” appears in the text, but the fact that “preaching” (kēryssō) does. One of the key elements found in the preaching of the gospel is that Jesus is Lord (2 Corinthians 4:5). The use of “Lord” is to be understood as YHWH for that is what Paul “preached” as described in Romans 10:8, 13.
Also marc,in all the gosples the apostle Paul always tells us that when he prays he prays to the Father, EG :Col 1;3 “We always thank god
,the father of our Lord Jesus Christ when we pray!” 1Thess 1:2″ We always thank God when we mention all of you in our prayers.”2nd Thess1:3 ‘We are obligated always to give thanks to God for you Brothers…”verse 11,”To that very end we always pray for you,that our God may count you worthy of his calling…”1Tim 2:1+3″First of all then I urge that supplications,PRAYERS,intercessions,& thanksgiving be made all men..This is Fine & acceptable in the sight of our God..”2nd Tim 1:3 I am gratefull to GOD,to whom I am rendering sacred service as my forefathers did,& with a clean conscience,never ceasing in MY SUPPLICATIONS night & day.1st Peter 1:3 Praised be the God & Father of our Lord Jesus Christ ETC.All these & many more point that we pray to the most high God-no where can i see a example of prayer by the apostles direct to Christ!Regards,Richard Tazzyman,Bible Student,Australia.God Bless
I agree that Paul prays to the Father, but he also teaches that it is proper to pray to the Lord Jesus.
If the Lord Jesus was the proper recipient of prayer just one time this would prove that He is God. The fact that the Bible teaches over and over further strengthens this affirmation.
Hello Mark,We will have to agree to disagree! No where in the bible is the trinity mentioned.It was a doctrine introduced into the false church system at least 300years after Jesus death.Read John 17:1-3 “Father,the hour has come.Glorify your Son(Jesus)so that your Son (Jesus)may glorify you.just as you(Jehovah)have given Him(JesusAuthority over all flesh….”John 17:17, “Sanctify them by means of the truth;Your (Gods) word is truth,(18)Just as you (God)Sent me(the son)into the world”… Mathew 26:38-39 “And going a little way forward,he(Jesus)fell facedown,Praying(To Who?)” My FATHER(Jehovah),if it is possible,let this cup pass away from me.YET NOT AS I(Jesus)will,But as you(Jehovah)will.Also many times Jesus Said “The Father(Jehovah)is greater than I(Jesus,the son).This is easy to see,that Jesus is the son,We do not need any man made explanations to try & explain the relationship between the father & the Son as it is clearly explained in Gods Word!Proverbs 8:30, “Then I was besides him as a master Worker.I was the one he was especially fond of day by day…”Revelation 3:14 Ties in so nicely with this Scripture”To the Angel of the congregation in Laodicea write “These are the things that the AMEN(refer to 2nd Corinthians 1:19-23)says,the faithful & true witness(Jesus)the BEGINNING of the creation of God!Richard.Tazzyman,Bible Student Australia
Hello Richard,
I agree that the Son is not the Father. I never asserted otherwise. I am greater in my position as husband to my wife (Ephesians 5:24-25), but she is not ontologically inferior to me. Jesus subjected Himself to Joseph and Mary, but He was not ontologically inferior to them (Luke 2:52). Functional subjection does not necessitate ontological inferiority.
I addressed Revelation 3:14 in post #12 (I am Faber)
https://www.christforums.com/forums/topic/196-the-trinity-is-it-possible-that-god-be-both-one-and-three/?tab=comments#comment-37744
Yes Marc,but you & your wife are different persons,You become one in purpose,Harmony, when you are married,but still two seperate persons.Thus when Jesus said I and the father are one,he explained what he meant a few verses later,when he said his followers were one with him as well.That is the meaning of their being one,In purpose only.Richard
Christians are all one in God. But Christians are not to pray to other Christians because they are not God. Christians can pray to Jesus because He is God. So it goes far beyond just being one in purpose to that of one in Being.
Marc,
Jesus was raised to the Divine nature. That’s why he’s called God ONLY after his ressurection. We will also be raised to the Divine nature and in essence will be God as well. You’re not going to convince anyone of the trinity here. I’ve denated the trinity for over a decade. All your arguements are the same onwa parroted off. I’ve heard them all. Literally all of them.
Well, angels will worship Jesus AFTER he arrives as in Hebrews 1:6. It is best to wait, imo, because in the 1000 years more detail is to be given.
But, if you do worship Christ, when would that cease? Since in 1 Corinthians 15:28 God is EVERYTHING to EVERYONE.
Like Israel, people seem to crave to expand their worship repertoire. But, how di that work out for Israel?
Just because it is Christ is not a go ahead to then invent ones own worship rules.
If Christ was to receive worship, it would not be accidents like when John worshiped the angel and was warned two times for that. He did not remember the first warning.
Thus, it seems God overlooks this, but God ALMIGHTY should be enough to worship, if you catch my drift.
But, that is my opinion, everyone must float their own boat of conscience along with accountability. In time, whether it worked out or not will provide lessens for others, and hopefully we can avoid being the bad examples which humans always seem to have a good reason to be doing, when they do make those mistakes.
The [exclusive] devotion means one thing. Inclusive devotion is ALWAYS the thing which has stumbled millions, perhaps billions.
If that were not the case we would not still be here re-reviewing what seems to be a no-brainer by now. But, human is very very slow to learn as a whole.
You want to know who is very cool with worship alongside the Father?
SATAN.
Most non Trinitarian Christians, who ” worship ” Jesus do so , recognising that Jesus receives his glory from the Father , and they do so in honor and obedience to the Father , who commandd “Kiss The Son lest God be angry ” .
They do not worship Jesus in place of the Father , the worship Jesus because of The Father .
I would fully agree with both Rena and Barnabus, Jesus himself said all the time as well as in the Our Father Prayer, he directed exclusive devotion to his father, In the Ten Commandments it clearly says exclusive devotion. Doing obeisance even to Angel is different. The Angel did say to John ‘be careful don’t do that’.
Thank you
Dear Br Peter
In my mind it is serious, Jesus would not want us to direct the worship that belongs to his Father to him.
He always tries to honour his father, to worship him is in my mind wrong.
Barnabas
Barnabas – I am glad you are expressing your opinion here. We allow the Christian Liberty for differences of opinion. Feel free to give further scriptural evidence or examples if you would like. Thank you for your contributions.
Shalom again
I saw that a brother called David Christiansen wrote the article, but why put this up, when we know all worship is to be given to the father.
Kiss the son so you will not perish, ps 2 shows that we shall adore and honour Jesus as the Fathers right hand the one he uses to fulfill his purposes.
When Jesus have done all he will give everything back to the Father.
Jesus never said we shall worship him.
Shalom Br Peter
Are you trying to make people worship Jesus?
Jesus never said we should worship him he always pointed us to worship the Father.
The first commandment in the law and the according to Jesus this is what the whole law is hanging on was the first commandment.
This is what Jesus said to a certain lawyer:
Luk 10:25 And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
Luk 10:26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
Luk 10:27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
Luk 10:28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
Also when Jesus was tempted by the Devil to do one act of worship to him he answered and said that worship was only to be directed to the Father.
In Christ
Barnabas – Thanks. We primarily worship Jehovah. The point of this article is that it is not a sin to worship His Son, nor should we condemn others for doing so.
Thankyou Peter, you hit the nail on the head, it could never be a sin to worship Jesus because it is supported in the Greek text. Jesus did say it is Jehovah God ALONE that we are to render sacred service (a completely different word in the Greek text). Worship aka obiesance is applied to many of Jehovah God’s directly apointed representatives. but NEVER our temple service which Jehovah God’s exclusively reserves for himself. It is he who is in the holy of holys.
Well said Rena.
This is another proof that the Lord Jesus is God. He is the proper recipient of sacred service (latreuō) in Revelation 7:10 (cf. v. 15) and Revelation 22:3. The same holds true concerning Acts 13:2 (leitourgeō).
Furthermore, one of the ways Anna rendered latreuō was by her prayers (Luke 2:37) – the same with Paul (Romans 1:8-10; 2 Timothy 1:3). Since the Lord Jesus is the proper recipient of prayer demonstrates that He receives this sacred service due “only” unto God.
Marc,
Again. Jesus was raised to the DIVINE NATURE. He was not a divine being before his birth. So he is worthy of honor glory and immortality and worship. He is not one God in three or 3-in-1. God is his father and he gave jesus the divine nature. This same nature is promised to us as well and we will be as God as well.
If the doctrine of the trinity brings you peace then believe it but I’ve heard EVERY argument and watched every debate and read James White. Its nothing new. You’re not going to convince me that jesus is God when 1 cor 8:6 states there is only one god the Father while you claim father son and holy spirit. Sorry. Not going to work. I believe the bible. But Googled arguements.
To properly receive latreuō goes far beyond possessing a “divine nature.” It is properly rendered unto Hm because He is God.
1 Corinthians 8:6 also states there is “one Lord” in reference to the Lord Jesus and yet (1) the Father is also called “Lord” in Acts 4:29 and Jesus is referred to as “my God” in John 20:28 and (2) when Paul applied “Lord” unto the Lord Jesus it meant that He is YHWH (Romans 10:13; cf. 1 Peter 2:3; 3:15).
Again superficial arguement. I’ve heard it before. Good night. You can believe what you want. But until God removes all errors that these christendom systems have imposed then you’ll still believe error. Good night. Anf by the way. Divine nature is deity.
Thus Ronald E. Frye is terribly wrong when he asserts that latreuō is “never to Jesus Christ” (page 41).
http://www.christianrespondent.com/pubs/Father-Son.pdf
Try as they may, those who deny the Lord Jesus Christ is God can never come up with a word from the Bible or passage that teaches people offer any kind of a superior worship to the Father and not to the Son.