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  • User Avatar2034 { The Daniel 12:11 1290 days of "8th King" World Government will also trigger the Christ arrival. And because he gathers the sheep first worldwide (Rev14:6-7),... } – Jan 27, 7:02 AM
  • User Avatar2034 { It appears Revelation 21 has Kingdom purposes for "coming down from heaven" to earth for humans. The one hope is immortality, the realm is heavenly... } – Jan 27, 6:58 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Rena. - It is our hope that with open and honest discussion (without fear) that we can reason together in love with each other... } – Jan 20, 8:33 AM
  • User AvatarRena Luecking aka Just Stay Sweet and Good { I agree Chris. the general attitude is not spiritual but combative these days. When people are attacked their "fight or flight" response kicks in. Our... } – Jan 19, 9:44 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Preach. So true. "today the larger percent of those who withdrew from so-called organized Christianity have turned aside and again gone back into the... } – Jan 14, 6:03 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Sky - Thanks for commenting. "God desires all men to be saved and come to a knowledge of the truth." 1 Tim 2:4. Thankfully God's... } – Dec 31, 10:42 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - I am going to assume you actually believe this scenario where over 99% of mankind goes to hell. I have two questions for... } – Dec 30, 2:48 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Br. Richard, I personally knew Sr. Marge since I was a teenager. Any comments I could make would not do justice in describing her kindness,... } – Dec 30, 7:26 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Br. Richard. I appreciate your support in making this book available. } – Dec 30, 7:17 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { No more from me Bro Peter.We have Listened.But the arguments of Scripture that Marc quoted do not in any way or form point to a... } – Dec 29, 10:45 PM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Dear Brother Peter,We have plenty of the booklets,We had them reprinted.I have let G/Eagle know & asked him to e/mail me if he would like... } – Dec 29, 10:36 PM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Hello Golden Eagle.If you send me your email details to rtazzyman@dodo.com.au I will send you a copy or copies.(No charge)Richard.Tazzyman,Bible Student Australia } – Dec 29, 10:34 PM
  • User AvatarChristopher Johns { Another self righteous comment. It makes me think when a Christian calls someone a name and then uses the scripture of jesus calling the pharisees... } – Dec 29, 10:07 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { You did a great job rambling on but totally ignored Romans 9:18. } – Dec 29, 6:16 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter, I could easily say the exact same thing to you about the Scriptures I have cited in the past and could just as easily... } – Dec 29, 6:15 PM
  • User AvatarSky { ""God wants to save only His elect – the rest not so (Romans 9:18)"" There is your first problem. With that attitude you become "first... } – Dec 29, 5:43 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Golden Eagle - This book is no longer in print, but you can download the book to your computer. } – Dec 29, 3:43 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Golden Eagle, I'm so sorry to hear about your family. So many have been damaged by the high control religion. I left the JWs when... } – Dec 29, 2:36 PM
  • User AvatarGolden Eagle { How do you get a copy of this book sent by mail ? } – Dec 29, 12:59 PM
  • User AvatarGolden Eagle { I have been reading all this as now it has all become confusing . So many doctrines have changed , as well as so many... } – Dec 29, 12:55 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - If you are not seriously going to consider the scriptures at the link than it is becoming clear this was never really a... } – Dec 29, 11:09 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { All incorrect. But you believe what you want. } – Dec 29, 9:05 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Some introductory thoughts. 1. God wants to save only His elect - the rest not so (Romans 9:18). 2. God will bless all people who... } – Dec 29, 7:14 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johnz { Marc doesnt want to see it. Jesus said he is ascending to his God. The Bible even says that the head of christ is God.... } – Dec 29, 6:33 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - We could continue debating the Trinity for months. I think it has gone on long enough. We have heard enough from you on... } – Dec 29, 6:00 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Christ's throne, "stands at the right hand of the Father's throne...or is even identical with it Rv 22:1, 3; cp. 3:21b (BDAG, 3rd Edition, thronos,... } – Dec 29, 5:46 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Marc,Read the scripture- two different people,two different thrones, you cannot ignore that. Otherwise you can twist any scripture to suit your teaching. Regards Richard.BS Australia. } – Dec 29, 5:20 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { And both the Father and the Lord Jesus on the the throne receive worship not fit for any created being (Revelation 5:12-13; 7:10, 15; 22:3). } – Dec 29, 4:31 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Dear Bro Chris,As you stated,the scriptures do the talking-not us,we cannot change what Jesus said in Rev 3:21 "To the one who conquers I will... } – Dec 29, 1:14 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Chris, The good news (gospel) includes calling on the name of Jesus as being YHWH (Romans 10:8, 13) Apollos debated the Jews who denied that... } – Dec 29, 12:49 AM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Marc, Like we said. You believe what you want. I believe Jesus when he said "I Am ascending to my God." If they were both... } – Dec 28, 9:06 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Marc Apollos went to spread the good news of Jesus Christ. He ran into the Jews who wanted to argue and he debated them. You... } – Dec 28, 8:51 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { If there is something that exists in this site which says something like "if you disagree with us then don't post here" then I wouldn't... } – Dec 28, 8:19 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter, 1. You asserted: Nothing in any of the various titles and descriptions of the holy Spirit substantiates the popular conception of the holy Spirit... } – Dec 28, 7:19 PM
  • User AvatarChris Jonns { Peter, Why are you still encouraging hi? Hes here to argue. He just calls its contending for the faith. When you search out those to... } – Dec 28, 7:16 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter, 1. You asserted: Calling on the name of Jesus is the same as calling on the name of the LORD (YHWH) as Jesus is... } – Dec 28, 7:14 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc Your first proof: None of the scriptures you cited proved that Jesus was YHWH. I answered every one. So far your have zero scriptures... } – Dec 28, 4:38 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { If the Bible applied YHWH from the Old Testament unto the Lord Jesus just once that would be enough proof that He is YHWH. But... } – Dec 28, 6:54 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc, If there were scriptures that clearly taught the Trinity, then at best we have a situation where Acts 2:21 and Romans 10:13 could be... } – Dec 28, 5:15 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter, 1 Corinthians 1:2 is also uses the expression "call upon the name of the Lord" which is taken from Joel 2:32 and it is... } – Dec 27, 7:22 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc, Consider this in response to your arguments about the Holy Spirit. Nothing in any of the various titles and descriptions of the holy Spirit... } – Dec 27, 6:37 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc, This response is to your point #1 which is your evidence that the Lord Jesus is referred to as YHWH. First of all, we... } – Dec 27, 5:20 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Ok Peter. Sounds good. I meant 1 Peter 2:3 above not 1 Peter 2:4 - although the "Him" in verse 4 does indicate the "Lord"... } – Dec 26, 10:21 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Marc - We will take a look and get back to you when we can. I am presently at work for the next couple... } – Dec 26, 8:23 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Hi Peter, 1. My previous arguments that the Lord Jesus is referred to as YHWH were not refuted. That is Old Testament passages where "YHWH"... } – Dec 26, 8:08 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - The absence of evidence in points 1-3 are valid arguments. Your rebuttal is worth considering with supporting evidence supplied. The fact that Trinity... } – Dec 26, 7:40 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter, In response to your 4 points: 1. Just because a specific word does not appear is irrelevant. The Bible never uses the word "monotheism"... } – Dec 25, 5:43 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thanks Bro. Richard, I like Marc. Sure he is is firm and convicted of his views, but he is also as respectful and polite as... } – Dec 25, 4:49 PM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Dear Bro Peter,I just had to comment on your Post to Marc,You have been very Patient,loving and ; gone to great lengths to explain the... } – Dec 25, 4:39 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Hi Marc, The modern 20th century view is the Tri-unity does not accept historical views of the Trinity where the Father, Son and Holy Spirit... } – Dec 25, 9:57 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter, I meant bodies in the sense of physical bodies. What is the difference between a Trinitarian and a Tri-unitarian? I ask because I couldn't... } – Dec 25, 5:45 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Thank you. Merry Christmas to you as well. } – Dec 24, 5:34 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Merry Christmas Marc. } – Dec 24, 5:23 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Hi Peter, God knows His sheep and will protect all of His own (John 10:27-29). } – Dec 24, 4:13 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - Based on on what you believe the Bible teaches, your approach is honest and honorable, even if I do not believe you are... } – Dec 24, 8:13 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Hello Thomas,As Bro Chris said we are bible Students,I was a JW for many over 40 years.I left in the very late 1980s due to... } – Dec 23, 10:03 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter, I try to speak the truth in love. I am not going to sacrifice what the truth is - that wouldn't be a loving... } – Dec 23, 7:37 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - How can you make such a heartless claim without even attempting to consider the nearly hundred Salvation Bible verses I provided to you... } – Dec 23, 5:19 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Thomas - Chris gave a good explanation. If you could go to Pre-1917 in a time machine, we today believe the same things those Bible... } – Dec 23, 5:08 PM
  • User AvatarChris Johns { Thomas, Yes there are some different messages because we have different people come on here from different denominations. But we are BIBLE Students. We were... } – Dec 23, 2:20 PM
  • User AvatarThomas { It seems to me I am hearing a different suttel message here Things do not seem to make sense as I know them I am... } – Dec 23, 11:29 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter, Those who reject the Trinity do not love the Father and Son. They have a false god and a false god can not save... } – Dec 23, 9:52 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Hi Peter, I was thinking in terms of a physical body. Can you please explain the difference between Trinitarian and Tri-unitarian. } – Dec 23, 9:48 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - What is the future of those who love the Father and Son, study the Bible daily and reject the Trinity? Heaven? Hell? } – Dec 23, 8:45 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - Wicked spirits do have spirit bodies. What scripture says spirits do not have bodies? They are the fallen Angel's bound in chains of... } – Dec 23, 8:36 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Hello Ari, Concerning the Holy Spirit you wrote, " Its not a person because you must have a body to be a person." Trinitarians correctly... } – Dec 22, 8:15 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { They were following Christ's instructions. A name can represent authority. To be water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus is to be water... } – Dec 22, 8:10 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc, In the article I quoted several scriptures where people were baptized in Jesus' name. For example: Acts 2:38 (NKJV) Then Peter said to them,... } – Dec 22, 7:14 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Matthew 24:3 (Rotherham translation) "And, as he was sitting upon the Mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him, privately, saying--Tell us, when these things... } – Dec 22, 7:05 AM
  • User Avatar { "Someone who reads the Bible can add that his translation of Matthew 24: 3 mentions the sign of Jesus' coming, not presence! Despite the fact... } – Dec 22, 4:01 AM
  • User Avatar { or should I say pardon me, English is not my native language } – Dec 22, 3:37 AM
  • User Avatar { Nice to hear it. Sorry for misunderstanding, I was referring to JW. It seems that we have a lot in common. It is a pity... } – Dec 22, 3:35 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Concerning your citation of Hebrews 1:8 I wrote, "Your rendering on Hebrews 1:8 is supported by only a minority of English translations." See below and... } – Dec 22, 3:19 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Mark,that statement about Hebrews 1:8-9 that you said was not correct,& that only a few translations use it ,again is not true.One of the best... } – Dec 22, 1:28 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { You are trying to change what the word monogenēs means. I cited from at least 3 good lexicons that do not at all agree with... } – Dec 22, 12:35 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { That is not correct Mark,Again you are trying to change what the Scripture says,Read Hebrews 1 :8-9 :But about the Son,he says:God is your throne(not... } – Dec 21, 9:21 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { I know of no Greek manuscript of the NT that reads any different than the mentioning of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.... } – Dec 21, 6:15 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { It is evident from the consistent repetetive writings of the earliest Church fathers that their earlier manuscripts read this way. As the antichrist system took... } – Dec 21, 5:23 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { The Lord Jesus calls the Father “God” in John 20:17. Thomas calls the Lord Jesus “God” in John 20:28. The Father calls the Lord Jesus... } – Dec 21, 5:12 PM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Marc,Please read your Bible,John20:17.It states it quite clearly:quote from Diaglot:"Jesus said to her,"Touch me not;for I have not yet ascended to My FATHER;but go to... } – Dec 21, 5:10 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Yes, the Trinity is a biblically correct teaching. } – Dec 21, 5:10 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Please cite one Greek manuscript that supports this rendering of the text. } – Dec 21, 5:07 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { 1. BDAG (3rd Edition): pert. to being the only one of its kind or class, unique (in kind) (monogenēs, page 658). 2. NIDNTT: While genos... } – Dec 21, 5:05 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - Again, Theos is not exclusive to Yahweh. If you insist on a conveniently devised rule that "my Theos" proves Jesus is Yahweh then... } – Dec 21, 5:05 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Go ye and make disciples of all nations in my name, teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I commanded you } – Dec 21, 4:57 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Your example does not exist in the Bible where someone appropriately calls someone else "my G/god" for very good reason. } – Dec 21, 4:47 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { So how do you think Matthew 28:19 reads? } – Dec 21, 4:44 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { In John 1:18 Jesus is called the "only begotten God." Can you name any living being where begotten does not indicate a beginning? All animals... } – Dec 21, 4:32 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { I already twice showed how Jesus quoted psalms prophetically referring to his bride as gods (theos). That Thomas called Jesus "My Theos" does not prove... } – Dec 21, 4:27 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { In one of our articles we say Eusebius, a fourth century writer, had the greatest library of any early church scribe. It contained manuscripts of... } – Dec 21, 4:20 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { The bride is never referred to as "my God" - but the Lord Jesus is properly referred to as such because He is the true... } – Dec 21, 3:45 PM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { My explanation concerning the use of "my God" can not be refuted. It shows that it properly for the only true God. When it is... } – Dec 21, 3:39 PM
  • User Avatar { Hi Peter, 1 Peter 2:3 is listed with Psalm 34:8 from the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge: taste 63:5 119:103 Solomon 2:3 ; 5:1 Hebrews 6:4... } – Dec 21, 3:35 PM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Yes Marc, they are both "theos", but so is the bride of Christ where in John 10:34, Jesus quoting from Psa 82:6 How do you... } – Dec 21, 11:41 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - This is simply a rule Trinitarians make up. The fact is that "theos" does not apply exclusively to Yahweh and Jesus. In John... } – Dec 21, 11:39 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc - Just because your authority says that Peter is quoting Psalms 34:8 does not prove it. Psalms 34:8 is not even provided as a... } – Dec 21, 9:47 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { Peter is most definitely quoting Psalm 34:8. BDAG (3rd Edition) reads: in OT quotations, where it is understood of the Lord of the new community...1... } – Dec 21, 9:07 AM
  • User AvatarPeter K. (admin) { Marc, Let's look at your verses. 1 Peter 2:3 (NKJV) "if indeed you have tasted that the Lord is gracious ." Psalm 34:8 (NKJV) "Oh,... } – Dec 21, 8:21 AM
  • User AvatarMarc Taylor { The Lord Jesus calls the Father "God" in John 20:17. Thomas calls the Lord Jesus "God" in John 20:28. The Father calls the Lord Jesus... } – Dec 21, 2:35 AM
  • User AvatarRichard.Tazzyman { Hello Again Marc.Your reply to Brother Peter was not correct,Refer again to John20:17.Jesus Said ,"I am acsending to my Father (JEHOVAH)& your Father(Jehovah)AND TO MY... } – Dec 21, 2:17 AM
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83 comments to Latest Comments Digest

  • dave

    revelation chapter 19 is not just unfaithful chosen ones. rev. 11 18 its not the chosen ones bringing havoc on the earth.

  • Charles

    Tony Morris dictator GB chief. Turn church to arrogant unfriendly fundamentalist place. Good worldly peoples gonna died and only active members survive. Hostile wicked politics.

  • Gasa

    Dear Christopher
    It is my understanding that this site is called friends for Jehovah’s witnesses you say we are like the Catholic Church in that we blindly follow an organisation. Some may claim this when they have left us but the ‘beroea were more noble minded ..they carefully examined the scriptures” Act 17:11 nwt that is the remit of every Christian and every Christian witness of Jehovah. A church or organisation helps with fellowship and bible study but my faith is based on my personal relationship with God through his Son. Abel and Job served God loyally without a church so must we if need be.
    Concerning your claim that all Christians go to heaven none have the earthly hope. What about Martha’s comment about the resserection in the last day, the evildoer who died beside Jesus with Jesus promise of paradise and Mt 5:5 where Jesus mentioned the meek. I agree with you most of Jesus comments for Christians was introducing the heavenly hope for the ‘elect’ who make up the bride class part of the kingdom.
    Earthly Israel today is not acknowledged in any plans for us today but brother Russell believed and wrote about earthy Israel returning to there own land and Gog attacking Israel we know today. I personally am inclined to agree with Pastor Russell. You are right expressing personal views publically can get us into trouble in our organisation and yes this is not a good sign.
    Any more details or answers welcome

    • Christopher Johns

      Gaza,
      Thanks for your reply. Sorry I didn’t get back to you. We were at the All Florida Convention of Bible Students. It was amazing!!! So much deep discussion on the churches experience as typified in the Books of Exodus,Deuteronomy, Leviticus.
      As for your comment about Martha. Remember Lazarus died BEFORE the begetting of the Holy Spirit. Therefore there was a resurrection to the earth for him and the reason she believed he would be resurrected to the earth. The Jews had this belief and that’s why she believed it. The apostles didn’t even know that Jesus was to die much less receive a spiritual resurrection. Those who lived before Jesus and before the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost will have an earthly resurrection. It wasn’t until 1935 that the JWs started teaching that the Great Company class is an earthly class. This was mainly done because the number of people on the group exceeded the number of 144,000. So what do we do with them? That’s when two hopes came about. The Matthew 5:5 if you read it says “Inherit the earth” Does not the church become JOINT HEIRS with Christ? Do they not inherit the earth to rule over? Also if you look at the surrounding verses they say “Will be called sons of God” “they will see God” “Kingdom of the heavens belongs to them.” These all refer to the anointed and therefore so does verse 5:5.

      There is so much about the restoration of the nation of Israel. In the Kingdom Hall this week it was assigned to read Romans 11. Notice the “their” when they are talking about the natural Jews it says “their”. Then it says “and this is the covenant that I will make with THEM”. Not “US”. Also Amos 9:14,15 says they would be brought back together and planted in their land and NEVER BE UPROOTED AGAIN. Well this did not have a fulfillment yet for they were uprooted again in 70-73 AD.

      Notice how this is Israel in the flesh. Not spiritual “A partial dulling of senses has come upon Israel until the full number of people of the nations has come in, 26 and in this manner all Israel will be saved. Just as it is written: “The deliverer will come out of Zion and turn away ungodly practices from Jacob. 27 And this is my covenant with them, when I take their sins away.” Romans 11:25-27

      As for following an organization. I don’t believe they blindly do it. You may have some that would believe that. And what I share with you is in by no means an attack or criticism. There’s nothing wrong with being organized. Russell even said that no major undertaking could happen without organization. However it’s when we believe that this organization is necessary for our salvation that we don’t agree with. I’ve heard it’s stated that we have to come into the “art“ in order to be saved from the “flood ”. Or when we claim that only truth can come from it and on they can interpret the Bible. Here’s a few example. And like I said this is by no means an attack.

      Catholics say only the Pope can interpret the Bible. (I’m sure they’ve loosed this a bit).
      JWs say “Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization, not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that they can interpret the Bible,” (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1967, p. 587).

      Catholics used to teach everyone will go to hell outside their church. JWs teach the following:
      “Only Jehovah’s Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the “great crowd,” as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil.” Watchtower 1989 Sep 1 p.19”

      “Just as Noah and his God-fearing family were preserved in the ark, survival of individuals today depends on their faith and their loyal association with the earthly part of Jehovah’s universal organization.” Watchtower 2006 May 15 p.22 “Are You Prepared for Survival?”

      The majority of people living today will probably be alive when Armageddon breaks out, and there are no resurrection hopes for those that are destroyed then.” Kingdom Ministry 1968 Mar p.4

      “To receive everlasting life in the earthly Paradise we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it.” Watchtower 1983 Feb 15 p.12

      “Come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation” Watchtower 1981 Nov 15 p.212

      Bible Student believe that the world of mankind is not on trial for life right now. We believe that that is what the millennium is for. To say that people are going to die in Armageddon because they don’t believe now places the world of mankind on trial for life. We believe that only the church is on trial for life now. If you look at the atonement day sacrifices you’ll see that there was a blessing for the Levites and then a blessing for the people in general. This we believe represent the church is blessed first and then the Israelites who represent the world of mankind.

      I’d like to hear your thoughts. 🙂

  • Gasa

    My apologies I had not read your full introduction and the purpose of your site. There are so many sites that attack us. It’s refreshing to find you,
    Christian love.

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