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Hello my name is Jacqueline and I was a loyal witness for over 60 yrs. I moved when the organization moved.  I have been an aux. and a regular pioneer, aiding many to come to a knowledge of the truth.  I am a third generation witness.  I have many family members who are still witnesses.  My Crisis of Conscience began when I became aware of the governing body’s great influence and encroachment on Jesus’ place in the congregation.  It seems he was mentioned less and less each year, but the governing body scores of times during the meetings.  I left in August 2009 and went back to the original Bible Students in January 2010.  As a” Holistic Alternative Psychology Practitioner”, I was also disturbed over the many pedophile cases that came my way, done by elders and other brothers within the congregation.  I made the society aware.  Little did I know it created a file on me in Bethel.  I thought I was making them aware of something they didn’t know about.  I was wrong. They already knew and threatened to disfellowship me if I cooperated with one case.  I had a ” CRISIS OF CONSCIENCE” and went in “SEARCH OF CHRISTIAN FREEDOM” IN CHRIST.

I am here only to help ones that have come to a crisis where “THEY” have decided to leave the Corporation, need help and Christian Fellowship.  Sometimes we don’t know where to go.  So it is with this attitude and mindset of the Lord Christ Jesus that I want to do what I can, if the Lord permits. Additionally, I prayed hard before deciding to reach out and help if someone needed it. I could have been satisfied with just escaping myself. I was on a sinking luxury ship, I prayed for help. And along came a little  TUGBOAT. (The Bible Students). How could I not throw the lifeline to the ones that had jumped without knowing about the little Tugboat. Torgue, Tug placement and Momentum allows a little tugboat to pull even a big ship. There is lots of room on board for those that need something less polished, sleek, fancy and slick. Just plain old Bible , Jehovah and Jesus. No fancy building, just love and trust. The little Tugboat was sent by Jehovah I feel to rescue me and others, that need something that just sticks to the Bible without Big Corporation laws and by-laws.

Ask a  question, share your experience, or just blog and talk.  We all would love to hear from you.  This is a fear- free zone.  Comment on questions, reply, or just follow our blog.

In Christ,  Jacqueline.

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  • Nubby Tope

    Yesterday I was talking to a Christadelphian in town and we were discussing how they don’t believe in Satan. I explained in the book of Job that God had a meeting with all the angels and He asked Satan where he’d been, and Satan replied “roaming about in the Earth”. Now God must have been talking to someone other than Himself, unless He’s got a split personality. But this guy quoted Isaiah 45v5-7. God is source of light and dark!

    I was stumped, and that does not happen very often! So please, thoughts anyone?

    • Jacqueline

      Hi Nubby, my take: If he removes His Light there shall be darkness. This scriptures does not say to me that there is no satan or there are no angels, man, stars, etc.
      He is reading into the text his religious creed. Like us who came out of a religion where it dictates your doctrine he probably never reads the entire text. So I would say the scripture quoted isn’t about satan, doesn’t say God is satan here and he is interjecting his religious doctrine. Take care Nubby and I got you message of love and support from Greg. Thank you, so much.

    • greg (Bible Student)

      Nubby Tope,

      Jacqueline’s reply is exactly what came into my mind when I read your posting.

      Genesis 1 verses 3 & 4 read, “And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.”

      The “invention” (creation) of Light is prerequisite to the notion of there being an absence of light. Before you can have “No Light” you must first be able to have Light.

      Genesis 1:5 says that before there was light, the darkness had no name. Before there was light, there was simply a normal, there was simply what already was, simply the then-existing state of things. It was only after calling the light Day, that God also called the darkness Night. The “invention” of Light provided a contrast to the already existing state so that thereafter darkness could be clearly distinguished and reckoned apart from light.

      This is a significant concept to grasp and keep clear. In the same way as there can be no such thing as a broken window until after I have first invented a window, there can be no breaking of a law until after a law has been made. And so similarly, the notion of evil cannot exist until after God has deemed something good.

      Yet one more way of illustrating the idea is that one cannot miss the mark or bullseye until there is a bullseye target to aim at. Missing the mark is not in and of itself wrong, bad, or sinful until there is some great importance placed on hitting the mark.

      Consider Romans 4:15
      “but where there is no law, neither is there transgression.”

      Romans 5:13
      “until the law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law.”

      Romans 7:7
      “What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, “YOU SHALL NOT COVET .”

      and Romans 7:13
      “Therefore did that which is good become a cause of death for me? May it never be! Rather it was sin, in order that it might be shown to be sin by effecting my death through that which is good, so that through the commandment sin would become utterly sinful.

      None of these scriptures prove Satan is not a real person. But these scriptural concepts do show how a perfect child of God could depart from the light, and how God’s plans, works, and choices can make such an outcome possible.

      To me it’s no different than when I give my child a bicycle. Be letting them have an opportunity to experience freedom and joy, I also give them an equal opportunity to experience a fall and to suffer all its associated pain. The pain they might suffer arises from how the various elements combine, just the same as joy and freedom arise from how the various existing elements combine.

      Because I allow my child an opportunity for pain and for joy does not mean I am desirous that they should also suffer, nor that I am the author of any of their subsequent pain. Neither does it imply that I am Satan the Devil. Nor does it imply that Satan cannot be a real person. These arguments are quite unrelated.

      Matthew 4:1-11 records 3 conversations (temptations) that occurred between Jesus and Satan.

      The book of Job talks about Satan in a way that makes him as real as any other individual or thing in the Book of Job.

      Job 1:7
      “The LORD said to Satan, “From where do you come?””

      Job 1:12
      “Then the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power, only do not put forth your hand on him.” So Satan departed from the presence of the LORD.”

      Jude 9 reads:
      “But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him a railing judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!””

      Now whether or not a given individual finds these scriptures and lines of reasoning satisfying depends on many other factors besides just words, logic, and scripture.

      -greg

  • greg (Bible Student)

    Did you happen to see this newspaper story?

    “DOB says iconic Watchtower sign was illegal for half a century”

    https://therealdeal.com/2018/08/10/dob-says-iconic-watchtower-sign-was-illegal-for-half-a-century/

    -greg

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Yes I saw this but grandfathering would have covered this because the previous owners had permission.
      I was at the rides at Carnival with my grands Saturday night so I couldn’t come on. How was Attendance?
      Summer is always a slow time for Call in or internet meet ups because once you go out for the evening you are out.

      • greg (Bible Student)

        I’m glad to hear you had a happy time with the grandkids on Saturday. I’m really glad the children can benefit from your love and caring.

        I was only 10 years old when my great-grandmother died, and she had been on the decline for a couple of years before that. So really, the memories I have of her are few and brief. Still, to this day she remains one of the brightest lights in my life, and I have really come to appreciate how profoundly and lastingly influential she was for me. In a world of abuse, she was the one that treated me differently. I’ll never forget how she made me feel, which was so incredibly different from how every one else made me feel. While everyone else treated me with contempt and hostility, while everyone else in my life inflicted cruelty, pain, indignity, humiliation, terror, and suffering, she loved me, nurtured me, inspired me. When everyone else would have had me believe I was worthless, by her smile, her voice, and her kind, gentle actions, she made it clear that she saw me as precious.

        I say this to everyone: Never under-estimate the value of caring. For a child who lives in an entire world of pain, a single moment of caring can save that child’s life. Just a few moments of compassion, tenderness, gentleness, and love in an otherwise crushing and abusive existence can help inspire a child to look for something other than all the atrocities and mistreatment that they commonly experience and exist in. Just a momentary glimpse of an alternate universe is enough to let a child know that a different world CAN and indeed DOES exist, and that life doesn’t only ever have to be painful.

        You never know if your single act of kindness is going to be the one thing a child remembers for the rest of their life, nor what wonderful things it may inspire them to do with their lives.

        As for our Saturday meeting, though we were few in number this week, we thoroughly enjoyed the 3+ hours we spent conversing together. 🙂

        -greg

        • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

          My dear Greg, I saw your comment last night about 1 am and was over whelmed with what your little life was like as a child, with your abuser being the mother. I think we should have if you agree a Saturday night where we tell our story. You and Henry as men sometimes allude to abuse but never say it. Detail isn’t necessary but like AAA. My name is—– and I have been abused——. I was abused by ——. As a female we talk out these things and even tell exactly what happened to us. Men don’t! We have a me too movement but the men are having a hard time getting a foothold in it. Some of the school shootings etc are men acting out the abuse suffered in their lives.
          What you wrote broke my heart because I can imagine and read between the words. I had a client last week that is a veteran of the Vietnam war and we had a talk session and I said instead of saying “some terrible things happened over there”, tell me an example. My office was in Flying J Truck Stop for years (Mormon) so I am not regarded as a female but a therapist who listen to suicide by truck and police experiences so he talked.
          What he was able to tell me about one of the worst experiences he saw caused his whole shoulder and back to relax and release! I felt it and so did he. The very act of telling me this horrible atrocity that he never have told another soul released his mind, body and spirit. I had him submerged in very hot wet packs, meditation music playing and darkness. After our session the deep physical pain he was feeling was gone. He was a 6’4″ 250 lb man crying and just glorifying God for being able to say this horrible things that took place in the Vietnam war. I imagined but had never heard about this atrocity.
          So I have seen the power of saying something audible and the whole mind clears and smiles. There is power in words.
          I know you have had counseling but I am bumping off your experiences to encourage others on here to go and get help with a therapist, so you can talk openly and heal. Take care my brother.
          Thanks for diligently opening the Saturday night TESTIMONY MEETING.
          http://www.friendsofjehovahswitnesses.com/2018/07/20/testimony-meeting/

          PS: I took my own advise and audibly cried for my dear friend that is passing here in the US. Aretha Franklin. I traveled in her entourage for years and came to see her as a very spiritual person. I called on Nurse therapists once to treat her with the same type of therapy and it worked she told me. So I am in touch with her music producer as we wait patiently for the end. Donald Trump was also a good friend of Aretha. I wonder what his words will be when she passes. It is imminent now according to sources this morning. My heart is heavy.

          • greg (Bible Student)

            Jacqueline,

            I’d like to respond to so many of the things you said. I’ll try and be brief. 🙂

            Yes, it is often VERY difficult for men to get help that is actually helpful.

            Men do need to talk as part of their healing. As you know, for several years I facilitated a weekly drop-in group for men who had been sexually abused as children. I knew what it had been like for me on my own healing journey from it. And I really deeply cared about the men I worked with. It was wonderful to see them grow and heal and eventually move on with their lives. Some of them have now picked up and continued bringing the healing work to still others.

            Yes, we can make time and space to let people talk about their abuse on Saturdays. If there is sufficient interest or need, I’d even be willing to arrange to facilitate an online drop-in group specifically to address trauma and abuse–whatever the causes were. I know that we already do this to some extent on the current Testimony Meeting, but I can also see where it might eventually be helpful to dedicate some specific focus to survivors of trauma and abuse.

            “Listening Bravely” is a very difficult thing to do. I do not know many persons that understand the phrase, or can even do it, never mind do it well. But in my mind, it is an essential skill to learn if others are ever going to get the kind of help they desperately need so as to heal, to forgive, and to get on with their growing and living.

            Crying is not frequently considered a very manly thing to do. Happily, I’ve seen some shift toward acceptance of crying developing over the years, and I can attest to how truly vital and cathartic crying can be. In my own experience, it takes strength and safety and relief to allow one’s self to cry, and men who reach that level of strength become very healthy themselves, and also become very healthy role models for other men and boys. And to reach that level of strength and relief, much safety has been required.

            It never ceases to amaze me how, if I can but provide the safety and the caring for the other person, the relief and the new-found strength naturally and powerfully arises from within the other person.

            What it means to get in touch with one’s own humanity is yet another one of the great lessons Jesus taught. We can either be cold, heartless machines like The Terminator and/or The Governing Body, or we can learn to feel, and to hurt, and to cry for ourselves and for others, and to care.

            I feel very saddened for your pain at hearing about the imminent death of your dear friend Aretha. Hugs to you in this time of your own sadness.

            -greg

  • Nubby Tope

    Has anyone heard the new video on Kim Mikey’s channel?

    Interview with Angus Stewart who was the lawyer that cross-examined Geoffery Jackson on the ARC! Check YouTube EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW Angus Stewart JW Community.Org

    This interview is amazing and what a humble guy – more humble than any GB member! Is this man the Cult-Buster?

  • Hi again Lee, Greg and Jacqueline.

    Thank you so much for your willingness in this regard.

    Let us see first if what I did will help.

    Let me know if it works.

    In Christ
    Kent

  • Lee Anthony (Brandon)

    Thanks Kent! Wondering if it help I am willing 2 donate toward price of bought certificate. Please let us know if we can assist. Thanks.
    Lee

  • Thank you. It works for me on my android but not the tablet. I use a computer and it goes straight thru. Would you pop in next Saturday please if possible so we can discuss this cost. North America testimony for 7/21/18.

  • Hi jaquelin and Greg and Lee.

    Thanks for talking to mconf team about the problem.

    It is a problem with the certificate on the server we use for the meetings.

    It is a free certificate and it works mostly but obviously when logging in with android it complains about the certificate.

    As soon as I can I will replace the certificate with a bought one.

    Love to all of you.

    Kent
    Sweden

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