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Anointed Talk

Welcome all Anointed Jehovah’s Witnesses and those who would like to talk with you!

Anointed Talk is a place for the Anointed of Jehovah’s Witnesses to talk to each other and for others of us to get a chance to talk to you.  And why not?  We have been told that no one else is listening to you.  Is this true?   The The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11 says, “anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand…”  (See complete quote below).  Yet to what avail is this special insight?  Does the Governing Body care what the Anointed have to say?  Do they ask for the opinion and spiritual insight of the anointed?  Sadly, we are getting reports from Anointed JWs, indicating they are being disrespected, ridiculed and made fun of.  They tell us that they are even being discouraged from partaking of the memorial.  Is it true that the elders and others just don’t believe that those who claim they are anointed really are?  That they do not respect insights of those claiming to be anointed?  Are the anointed who express a different point of view labeled an Apostate?  Is what we are hearing true?  Is this the norm or just unusual examples coming our way?

Why doesn’t the Governing Body consult the anointed?  Why aren’t they interested in their opinion?  Why is the Watchtower writing department adding more writers that are not anointed?  Are the Anointed a perceived threat to the power structure that must be diminished?  After all, shouldn’t JWs being looking to the anointed for spiritual guidance as opposed to Elders, Circuit Overseers and District Overseers?  Is the JW power structure trying to minimize and belittle their influence?  Is this really all just about power and who is in control?

We are not trying to incite the Anointed to rise up and rebel and fight the system.  The Lord’s anointed are a humble and meek people.  Yet we understand that if anyone expresses a difference of opinion, whether anointed or not, they are in danger of being labeled an apostate.   So, how then can the anointed be in any position to provide spiritual insights.  If it is only to tell everyone else to follow the organization, then couldn’t any JW member do that?  So then of what value are the anointed in the JW Organization?  It only seems to make sense that elders and leaders in the JW organization would desire, in humility, to look to the anointed for spiritual guidance.

What do you think?  What is really going on.  Let us know what you think.  This is a place to talk.  We want to hear from everyone, but especially from the anointed ones, whether presently JWs or whether you have been driven out of the organization.  Please enlighten us and tell us the truth of what is happening.  Here you can talk to each other and help each other out.

Full quote:  “Daniel 12:4 states: “As for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of the end. Many will rove about, and the true knowledge will become abundant.” Much of what Daniel wrote was made secret and sealed up to human understanding for centuries. But what about today?

6 In this time of the end, many faithful Christians have ‘roved about’ in the pages of God’s Word, the Bible. The result? With Jehovah’s blessing on their efforts, true knowledge has become abundant. For instance, anointed Witnesses of Jehovah have been blessed with insight, enabling them to understand that Jesus Christ became heavenly King in the year 1914. In keeping with the apostle’s words recorded at 2 Peter 1:19-21, such anointed ones and their loyal companions are ‘paying attention to the prophetic word’ and are absolutely certain that this is the time of the end.” – “The Watchtower, 5/15/00, p. 11.

541 comments to Anointed Talk

  • It does not bother me at all if I go to heaven or not because this world system is allowed By God Jehovah of the Father to go until he says. Abuse when i started religion at home of some one trying to deprogram me took a lot of years my life my cut off 20 years early because the drugs because of this, My sinned passed hurt me were i had spent my money, now i take care of my money, some people may need those pills for longer time then others, Never i advice any one never come off pills on your own they are designed to make you have problems. It is proven those pills help some short term for a while but no proof off long term, no science proof they help at all. More proof they harm by people who study that are not controled by pharma. You tube mind control a alex jones movie system of things told, I could have made the movie when I was 9 years old I u the world was uder mind control by watching TV, ME CRAZY they say What do you think i think about every one else,. that i meet in VA, i love Jehovahs witnesses but they said i was not worthy,.

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Kevin hello, I run a non-profit for veterans and PTSD. You are right about just jumping off meds, you can’t do it quickly.
      I also like your attitude on life and living. This earth is a good place to reside and just thinking about all the other abodes out there. It is going to be nice when everything is restored and we are at one ment with our Father again.
      I know the Bride of Christ and Christ himself will enjoy their life and existence. The Great Multitude mentioned in Revelation 7:13 will enjoy heaven also.
      13 Then one of the elders addressed me, saying, “Who are these, robed in white, and where have they come from?” 14 I said to him, “Sir, you are the one that knows.” Then he said to me, “These are they who have come out of the great ordeal; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
      John was a Jew and believed in humans living on earth so he would have said humans if he was looking at earth but this was heaven.
      So I agree with you, life is life and we are so glad he died so we could attain to everlasting life or immortal life (life within ourselves) if his Bride.
      Take care of your self and thanks so much for expressing your sincere thoughts from the heart.

  • Jacqueline,. Watch mind Control movie or state of mind, Write on you tube alex jones you tube,. Alex Jones on you tube mind control, Mental pills are designed not to help people most of them, Over many years the pills will cause angry fits and many other problems. this film does not tell this but when these pills first started the plan was to slowly do to people what the old days would do destroy brain slowly. Big pharma never lies do they like religion and business men the tell truth you will see how most religion controls people and governments and the ruling class,. if google still allows,. it,. The door is still open for heaven some go some do not, Christ truth from Father. He is the only truth not men or women,. Russia has gone against one group. YAHS religion soon to make there stand to rulepeople the , I have one boss Christ and i need to do better, Or he will not know me in end,. many people of The yah movement are thinking wrong love of money was bad now it has gone crazy, world markets is nothing but gambling house the whole system is a gambling house, We do not know when the Christ rule will start if soon in our years or latter, Russell had many good teaching and many others. we only know who made it until the start of Christ when we make it and we may not if we do not, Love every one for putting up with me, but i see thing in other ways I check facts and many Views,.

  • Charles

    This is Jacqueline posting for Charles from Contact form:

    “Message: Is there anyway to personally come in contact with other anointed brothers and sisters? I live in Sacramento. I have been the object of bullying and retaliation for having partaken of the emblems at the last two Memorials. I have had certain restrictions imposed on me with no scriptural basis given. Please help me. Charles”

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Charles welcome, got your message. Now the brothers here will dialogue with you also. Take Care.

    • greg (Bible Student)

      Charles,

      Within just a few words you’ve conveyed great pain, sadness, and deep hurt. My heartfelt caring goes out to you. Though I live very far away from you, geographically speaking, in spirit I’m right beside you. Though there’s little comfort I can offer you with words, I offer you my willingness to hear, to listen if you should want to express yourself further, and I also offer a shoulder to cry on, and hugs to hopefully uplift your soul.

      Warmly,
      -greg

  • Kevin Davis

    Bible students are at a higher level then I am but I think I can find a class for me.

  • Kevin Davis

    Bible students are at a higher level of understanding then I am. I went from watch Tower to them hope I made the right choice. A bible student talked to me on my Level about first president of watch tower what he believed about 1914 and for the first time some gave some thing in mark book of bible. I have a long ways to go to learn. my English on paper is not the greatest ,

  • Kevin Davis

    The last study night with a Jehovahs Witnesses who I studied with I told him what I believe about the bible. That I feel the calling is for the 144000 now. I told him God Jehovah was a servant to Christ as Christ serves us and we should serve him and others as they do. Christ serves God is what I believe. I n others words those servants care for each other. I believe Christ will end the system one day. When many are not looking for end. In my view many of the 144000 will be on earth when Christ ends the system. My bible student class Leaders in my hearing believe the 144000 are gone before Christ comes. My core of what I believe is those who are dead in Christ members his body in heaven now and those alive will be sealed to help Christ at end. I feel the bible school Leaders may or may not do away with me from class. I never had this feeling at kingdom hall. I called a bible student from another class and told him I do not know first presidents teaching. And I have had a lot of problems. so I have not studied bible like my young days, We talked about 1914 and bible students view is not the same as todays Watch tower body of men, Did I get with some worse then kingdom hall leaders. The teaching you have on 1914 I like better the bible students. I do not care if I help in heaven or not. I just want Christ Father to have this earth back. I am tired of the way I have done in life. People are all for self. People in heaven are not going to be Christ. I f people want to be gods they are never going to live with Christ and be his body. That is why it is hard to go to heaven one reason. Man wants to be called gods or Christ. What is being part of world it has nothing to do with blood tranfusions or voteing or any thing of that or do you agree with books this faithful slave wrote in his big money making book Adam sinned that is the spirit of the world. I f a person try to go with another person wife. Or brings money deals in church or lets say a god not of the bible. sin is what church leaders need to worry about, not a great leaders books. It is good to read books. Who is Christ why do we not base a faith on Paul or any other man. Why is it wrong to make a business out of your Faith. Why is it wrong to baptize in a organization name. Or base our Faith on any man other then Christ, Because no one comes to understanding of truth but by Christ. Any man or women coming in there on name is a anti Christ that is in bible more than one time. Paul did not come in his own name. I never say a person is not with Lord or who has gone to be with Lord. Unless it is written in bible. I Think todays bible students has what it take to serve Christ. I have Called no person by name a anti Christ or think any one is that is in class or Leaders of watch tower. Many say who is in heaven, In my bible reading the ones who endure to the end get there reward, And Christ rules with helpers. And the word wallkill means right to kill not murder. I think todays watch tower leaders went to that city because that name, The 144000 are helpers they have no rights but help Judge and help people not kill. Bible student today told me not to worry there are bible students ever were, And I told him my heart is right, First president may have been al right and in heaven now I never read his books all the way, he lived before I was born I never seen him but on you tube and tapes I wasted my money on, Chicago bible students God sounds like a good God the world needs him, that is not who I called today, may be things work out with my class I am in, At Jehovahs witnesses kicked out one kicked out all. May be I am wrong about this class, never speak of what class I am in if you remember. I may long time ago I signed in wrong by mistake I think a few times, today watch tower shuns most members do not know why they have shuned some one said no voice ruled over and many stay,.

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Hello Kevin, so glad to hear from you again. And your english is getting better on paper. (). I think I have the same attitude as you on a point. I will serve wherever God decides he wants me, I too am just tired of all the pain in this world. I also agree that the only man needed to get to Jehovah is Christ. I am glad to be able to read and listen to other voices now rather than the governing body and have to accept their teachings or leave the congregation.
      As Christian it is good to be able to meet together with others of like faith and understanding of scripture but always being open to adjust the understanding as more light is shone on scripture.
      Having been witnesses before gives us a unique background, we will probably never worship men any more, we have seen the results of such. Our minds will remain more fluid because of our experiences.
      This can be helpful as we can understand many that have lost faith completely in God and is afraid.
      The Bible students are continually digging into scripture and I like that as the Bible itself has a wealth of knowledge to lead one to God. Many men have penned important knowledge they saw before they went on to rest or met Christ. This is helpful. I agree also that Paul or non of the writers came in their name but only the name of Christ as our Saviour. I think keeping this attitude of being open to the Holy Spirit to help us get to God thru Christ is sufficient and as we meet together we can get closer to the truth. Take Care of yourself and just go slow, breathe and enjoy this journey and don’t worry if you don’t agree with everybody, that is not necessary as all will be revealed eventually.

    • greg (Bible Student)

      Kevin,

      I concur with all that Jacqueline said. Still, I wanted to express myself to you so you would hopefully feel more confident that what you expressed made sense to me to.

      Also, from what I read in your expressions, I get a sense that you seem to be finding some small measure of inner peace, and perhaps even a little more stability in your life. Am I correct in my perception?

      Anyway, I’m happy to hear that your determination and persistence seem to still be in tact. Bravo!

      -greg

  • Philip

    I was anointed when I was a teenager. I felt Holy Spirit come over me and I hid how I felt from my family and others. I was raised a third generation Witness and had never had the desire to live anywhere other than “paradise earth” with my family. I eagerly wanted to see the resurrection of my grandmother. Then I told my CO how I felt, I wanted to partake at the evening meal, and was discouraged. I was told I was not anointed and that I would bring damnation on myself if I partook. The year I was anointed and went to the memorial I did not partake. And something spiritually broke inside me. I fell hard after that night and eventually left the organization after a lot of problems. I observed the Lord’s meal on my own. The reason I am on this site is because I am trying to understand what has happened to me and where I am going as an anointed person. I have no concern for the Watchtower organization anymore. I do not wish to join any other organizations ether. Yes anointed Christians threaten the structure of the Watchtower.

    True Christians in every age, the anointed ones, have always been autonomous, independent, self governing, sovereign, unmonitored, a free people. I visited this site in 2010 a few times, now I see it has really grown and am happy for you all. I have been walking my path alone for a while now. 20 years anointed and an outcast. Talk about a long dark night of the soul. As to the treatment of Christ’s brothers… the society will have to answer to the Lord for how they have managed their affairs. When I was a kid growing up I heard of one or two anointed Christians that went to meetings in other places and they were always frowned upon. Talked bad about behind their back. Doubted. The Watchtower society expects you to believe there are anointed Christians “out there”… somewhere… but you will never meet or see one in real life. If there suddenly appears to be one they must be crazy, insane, mental, or weak in faith. I don’t know what to think of it now, it’s really upsetting and bizarre. The few brothers and sisters I heard of who were anointed were also accused of being unspiritual. I believe now that they were defiant and would not obey the society but stuck around. Who’s going to judge the anointed right? You can’t tell them to leave if they are not doing anything wrong. When I left the organization it took a while but I finally read Franz book. It was disappointing to say the least. Even more disappointing was finding all of God’s children who have been abused and harmed on other ex jw sites. It feels like a nightmare actually. When I left the organization I made a lot of mistakes and bad choices. I was bent on self destruction. There were no longer any elders to police my behavior and I rebelled against everything. I battled addiction until it almost killed me. But today I am sitting here grateful to my heavenly Father for being alive.

    I don’t know what would have happened or where I would be now if that CO would have leaped for joy and hugged me when I told him how I felt. What would have happened if I “came out of the closet” at the memorial to the congregation? How would I have been treated after? Shunned away from as mentally ill? Become suspect as a person seeking authority in the organization? Considered to be a liar? Or shipped to Bethel? I don’t know and I’m not worried about it. I am following the Truth wherever the Holy Spirit leads me. Like everybody else I pray, I read scriptures, I meditate. I’m scared as hell too. I guess the current social and political climate in this country has really been a wake up call to me to be present and vocal about following the teachings of the Lord.

    Any of you friends are welcome to email me at philiplovesstarwars@gmail.com to chat, I usually don’t follow message boards.

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Hi Philip and welcome, thanks for sharing your life journey. I find Paul had the most accurate attitude of the upward call of God. Many Christians have decided they are “Anointed” rather than they are running with all of Christianity to at death be counted worthy of being of the “Bride of Christ” or among his heavenly great crowd.
      To me all Christians (I use this loosely without judging) and believers in Christ can be called by God and it doesn’t make them special like the “so called anointed CLASS OF THE JEHOVAH WITNESSES”. Read Philipians below to understand where I am coming from.

      Phillipians 3: 9 ” and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in[a] Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. 10 I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.

      12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.

      I can only express my person feelings. I don’t worry about being in a special class. I am willing to serve in whatever capacity he wants me. Some disagree with my attitude that I don’t feel any spot is menial. I have found a way to God because I have finally found Jesus who is the way.
      Try getting into the will of God maybe and forget your holiness of being anointed. Empty yourself and get to know Christ through the Bible so you can be known by him.
      Jehovah witnesses never equipped you or me to know Christ. Because they aren’t about Christ. I am a second generation or possibly a third as my family go back to before 1914 in knowing about the Second Advent. That doesn’t matter however because my mother and father went into a manmade organization,
      Many ex Jehovah witnesses still gauge everything off the witnesses and not the Bible. Their brain is stuck. These are business men. Many of us declared our own righteousness by claiming to be anointed or a pioneer or some position because this religion required status.
      Christ didn’t have a home or a lot of garments even but most witnesses have to have status because their governing body has so much and they feel they have to have some to be recognized by the few people in that organization.
      If more could get to know what the Bible really says and realize there is POWER IN PRAYER, not anointing but PRAYER. The Holy Spirit, the Helper is still around and God will answer prayers. But we must not declare our own righteousness because the Spirit won’t be able to get through.
      Others may address you privately, but targeted witnessing is what the witnesses did. Getting people off in their home away from any other imput.
      A public forum of different ideas can work also. You are welcome to speak publicly here.
      I don’t think with all you say you have been through that you did what Paul did or David, so I say talk to our FATHER!
      Take Care

      • Anonymous

        Wow you just made a lot of assumptions about what you think I currently believe to be true. I never stated my beliefs, I gave my experience of what I saw in the organization. Telling me I have not encountered hardships like Paul was completely dismissive of my own journey in the faith. This is definitely not a website I will come back to. You have a long way to go. It’s clear you use this forum as a platform to minister to others. You reached out to us, not the other way around to begin to share our felelings and experiences. Blessings. I hope you all well on your journey.

        • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

          Anonymous, I didn’t mean for what I said about the anointed to be a personal attack on you. I am sorry if it came across that way. BTW: When I mentioned David and Paul I was saying hardly anyone did the bad they did. God forgave them. I didn’t mean that in a bad way but a good way for all of us that went off course after leaving.
          I was speaking of the anointed the way witnesses and some ex witnesses perceive this as a special position, when really all Christians are running if they want to go to heaven for the purpose God has in mind.
          Witnesses hold this as a special badge when really they can take the bread and wine without asking anyone. I had a female that I aided who began taking the emblems without telling or asking anyone. When some elders or friends asked her about it, she said this is between her and God. I really appreciated her just taking it and not talking about it ever. The elders had to respect her and this has been over 25 years now and she continues to partake.
          So I was speaking of the general view of witnesses about the higher calling, they miss the mark and give people the wrong viewpoint. They are just fellow brothers in Christ struggling like everybody else in the congregation to make it.
          Discussions sometimes have to be general because many are looking on. On here we try to keep it in the open so people can say what they want and receive a truthful as possible response.
          I am not in competition with anyone, I hope and pray anonymous that we all can make it in the end of all judgements and at death be satisfied that we did the best we could.
          I don’t intend to attack or offend but to be frank with those that have been out for a longer time and have gone thru a lot and adjusted to the fact that the witnesses is not a good barometer for what the Bible says. Take Care

  • Kevin Davis

    My study with bible students is going good, The head teacher is very wise you have a lot of freedom with bible students to believe in what you think this is not total control group, I think the calling is still going on ,. The calling is a hard road, Soon we look for the New heaven to be complete maybe, I could make it or may not and be earthly class as any of us could, Bible students and Jehovahs witnesses can some be saved and others, God the Father Jehovah God Loves all you on earth today,. Look forward to remember Last supper and Death of The master the Christ who can save any one who accepts his Fathers way,. God so Loves all us, the earths people are unwise for most of bible teachings but there is good on earth at same time to,. It is nothing wrong if any of you or me want heaven today even if some will not make it, God is love and he knows all,. Many of you may make it to heaven to be with Christ, Every once in a while I will take some one to A baptize church because they do for people,.

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Kevin I have sort of a viewpoint like you on heaven. I am doing my best to prove worthy of the opportunity to be chosen by God to be a part of the Bride or the heavenly host to do what he wills.
      If in his divine grace decides He wants me on earth or anywhere else, I am at his service. I would not consider any use of me a downgrade or I wasn’t faithful enough to make the cut of the Bride. If the number is finite and is 144,000 common sense tells me there is a careful choice and cut off. A man may have many women to choose from as a bride but he chooses one, he can’t go over the number if it is literal. It is a free gift so works is not the entire process.
      I don’t really worry or think about destination. I focus on being grateful and appreciate the fact he got me free before I died. I have lived my whole life under slave owners a bunch of men out of New York city. Thanking God I got out before the billionaires began their rule from Warwick, New York. I am just glad to be alive and get a personal relationship with him. I want to see my mother and brothers again and many others. That would make me happy. But HE is a great GOD and he shows up and shows out! So I know there is more from this KING. A look at the heavens tells me we haven’t even thought about how big he is going to come in. I will not put him in a category of smallness either, as with Moses He said He will be gracious to whomever He pleases. God is confined by the little stuff we see in the Bible either. His hands are not tied by our feelings and thoughts. I know life will bw good in his hands. Sorry to testify but thinking of hims does that to you.

  • Bret

    2015 Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 15,177

  • Bret

    Anointed Number of JW’s Increases

    It is interesting to see that every year the number goes while according to older issues of the Watchtower the number should be declining…

    2016 Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 18,013

    Seems many are coming to the conclusion that you cannot truly be a Christian unless you partake..

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