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Does the Bible support a Jehovah’s Witnesses Governing Body?

The Watch Tower Society originally used the term “governing body” in a strict legal sense, and in fact, used the term quite sparingly.  As stated in the Watchtower, it was not until “the year 1944 the Watchtower magazine began to speak about the governing body of the Christian congregation (italics theirs).” (Watchtower, Dec. 15, 1971, p. 755)  Since the 1950s, the term would frequently be used to refer to the first century, making assertions such as, “The apostle Paul belonged to the governing body in the first century” (Watchtower, April 15, 1951, p. 235 par. 7) without citing any scriptural backup. On the other hand, the magazine described the modern day “Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, [as] the governing body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” (Watchtower, Jan. 1, 1950, p. 10 par. 2)

Election of Leaders by Congregation Voting.  In the Early Church, brethren met in various cities—Jerusalem, Antioch, Corinth, Thessonalica—and even in homes (Acts 11:22:13:1; 1Corinthians 1:2; 1 Thessalonians 1:1; Romans 16:5; Colossians 4:15).  Each ecclesia (church group) was autonomous electing its  own leaders, its own “Elders—those not necessarily advanced in age, but mature in character.

Acts 14:23 “And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with fasting, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.”

How did they “ordain” their leaders?  The Greek for “ordained” is “cheirotoneo from a comparative of NT:5495 and teino (to stretch); to be a hand-reacher or voter (by raising the hand).” (Strong’s #5500).  Early Christians had the responsibility of voting for their Elders by the stretching forth of their hands!

Twelve Apostles not Succeeded in Authority. The twelve Apostles were chosen directly by Jesus, but they had no replacements except, of course, Paul replaced Judas.  Just as Jesus selected the original twelve, he selected Paul as a replacement (Acts 9:15).   The other Apostles were well meaning, but premature in selecting the replacement Apostle themselves (Acts 1:26).  Inspired by God, they were the “twelve stars” crowning  the head of the Early Church (Revelation 12:1); also identified the twelve foundations of the New Jerusalem (Acts 21:14).  It would be hard to imagine that Paul as the greatest of the Apostles, would not be numbered among this special group of twelve.  There was no “apostolic succession” of any kind for a body of leadership authority through the Christian Age.

The only time one ecclesia recommended a ruling to the brethren at large was when a Jerusalem counsel decided that the Gentile brethren should not be forced to circumcise.   And, of course, at that time, there were actual Apostles in the ecclesia of Jerusalem making that recommendation [decree] to “abstain from meat offered to idols…” (Acts 15:22-29).

The independence of the Early Church is attested to by the fact that there were factions among the Corinthian brethren, some following either Paul, Peter or Apollos.  Paul said in 1 Cor 3:6-7, “I planted, A-pol’los watered, but God kept making it grow; so that neither is he that plants anything nor is he that waters, but God who makes it grow.” NWT.  Paul humbly said that He and Apollos were not anything.  Paul did not rule over the brethren.  In 1 Thes 2:7 he said, ” we became gentle in the midst of YOU, as when a nursing mother cherishes her own children.” NWT

Alas, as prophetically predicted, very soon the Christian Church evolved into dividing between “clergy” and “laity.”  (Acts 20:29; Matt 13:25; Rev 2:20; 1 Jn 2:18; 2 Thes 2:3)  On the one hand, some grasping for power took advantage of those ready to let go of their responsibility of electing their own leadership. Gradually a tower of authority built up with priests, bishops and finally a “pope.”  Again, the responsibility for decisions and authority to choose leader in the Ecclesia  rests with the congregation.

Qualifications for Leadership as Basis for Voting. While the Apostle Paul said the Ecclesia is to submit to and obey those which have “rule over you” (Hebrews 13:7, 17)—Paul also laid guidelines for selecting and voting for those who in the first place would be acceptable leader as an overseer!

When Paul gave Titus the responsibility for instructing new Ecclesias in Crete for organizing their leadership—he certainly was consistent with what he arranged earlier (Acts 14:23). “For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain (elect) elders in every city, as I had appointed thee” (Titus 1:5).

Each congregation was responsible for electing Elders who qualified. He then laid out the qualifications for evaluation by the Ecclesia members quite clearly:

  • Above reproach (Titus 1:6);
  • Husband of one wife with children not unruly;
  • Not self-willed, quick-tempered or addicted to wine;
  • No striker; not given to filthy lucre (Titus 1:7);
  • Hospitable, sensible, just, self-controlled (Titus 1:8);
  • Holding fast the faithful word; able to exhort in sound doctrine (1:9)

In his letter to Timothy, Apostle Paul similarly lines up the qualifications for voting for overseers:

  • Blameless, the husband of one wife (1 Timothy 3:1,2):
  • Vigilant, sober, of good beheaviore, givento hospitality:
  • Apt to teach (1 Timothy 3:2);
  • Not given to wine, no striker, not greedy of filthy lucre;
  • Patient, not a brawler, not covetous (1 Timothy 3:3);
  • Having his children in subjection with all gravity (1 Timothy 3:4);
  • Not a notive  (1 Timothy 3:7);
  • Of good report of them which are without (1 Timothy 3:7)

Individual Responsibility for Raising the Hand in Voting. Thus, the Ecclesia is given criteria for voting wisely and determining Jehovah’s will for the the selection of their teachers and instructors.  Congregations do NOT need to have an outside authoritative body of leaders to tell them what to do and what to think and what to change for “new light.”

Each member is responsible for attempting to determine the LORD’s will and expressing it in voting by the raising of his/her hand.  So Bible Students base their leadership selection—as well as activity selections—by the voting of the Ecclesia.

MORE ON ELECTION OF ELDERS BY VOTE

According to the Bible, the election of elders was practiced in the Early Church.  The eventual elimination of this practice gradually led to Elders becoming the Lord’s of the Church, rather than its servants and opened the way for the development of the Antichrist system.

Paul and Barnabas went around to all the churches and conducted the election of Elders.

Acts 14: 23 – And in every Church, after prayer and fasting, they selected Elders by show of hands, and commended them to the Lord on whom their faith rested.  –  Weymouth

Rotherham and Young’s Literal translation say, “appointed to them by vote elders in every assembly.”

RVIC Revised Version Improved and Corrected says, “elected elders.”

In 2 Corinthians Paul speaks of a brother who was elected by the churches to travel with him:

2 Cor 8:19 – … he is the one who was chosen by the vote of the Churches to travel with us… – Weymouth

In another example, we recall that the Apostles asked the Jerusalem Church to select seven deacons.

Acts 6:3  Therefore, brethren, pick out from among yourselves seven men of good repute, full of the Spirit and of wisdom, and we will appoint them to undertake this duty.   Weymouth

Who would have challenged the Apostles had they exerted their influence to appoint deacons themselves.  Yet instead they humbly asked the Ecclesia to make this selection.

OUR LIBERTY IN CHRIST

Romans 14:4  Who are you to judge the house servant of another? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for Jehovah can make him stand. – NWT

2 Tim 2:7 – 7  For God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind. – NKJV

Gal 5:1 – Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.   NKJV

Gal 5:13 – For you, brethren, have been called to liberty; only do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.  NKJV

2Co 3:17 –  …where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.   NWT

John 8:31, 32 – And so Jesus went on to say to the Jews that had believed him: “If YOU remain in my word, YOU are really my disciples, and YOU will know the truth, and the truth will set YOU free.  NWT

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214 comments to Does the Bible support a Jehovah’s Witnesses Governing Body?

  • Anonymous

    Is the Jw organization blood guilty in view of the fact lives have been lost due to their flip flopping past beliefs on organ transplants, vaccinations, blood tranfusions etc;

    • Jacqueline

      Hi anonymous, consider if I drove a car and kept having accidental deaths occur, we’d have to stop and think about my negligence or knowing that my car is not safe to transport people. But I want to make money and keep my customers. Due to the fact the Society changes the doctrines every 20 years or so they are aware that the cab or reasoning is flawed but they continue to drive or make up in this case unsound death dealing doctrine.
      So are they bloodguilty? Would the driver be bloodguilty? Notice also that you never hear o f a male JW involved. Raymond Franz “In Search of Christian Freedom” explains that these quirks, no blood transfusion, no organ transplant etc are invoked to get JW religion noticed and remembered. The whole world know witnesses don’t take blood. Door to door is not the most efficient way to warn of impending danger of lost of billions of lives at Armageddon but everybody knows about this odd practice. It is big business and advertisement that works. It has nothing to do with God. It is marketing like TV evangelists. Door to door picks out the lonely and sometimes depressed. Weeks or years sitting in your home alone being indoctrinated creates dependency. You no longer think for yourselves. A lot of the thinking or “Conscious Class” have left or sit there to keep their family in tack. Just my thoughts.

      • Anonymous

        Jacqueline, your reply makes a lot of sense. It’s amazing how some people just go along with whatever a man or group of men say without thing about it…reminds me of members of the other so called “false religions”. I guess some people are just weak minded.

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Anonymous – Here is what JW.org says about blood transfusions.

      http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jehovahs-witnesses-why-no-blood-transfusions/

      Here is a quote:  ” Why don’t Jehovah’s Witnesses accept blood transfusions?  This is a religious issue rather than a medical one. Both the Old and New Testaments clearly command us to abstain from blood (Genesis 9:4;  Leviticus 17:10;  Deuteronomy 12:23;  Acts s the heart, vessels, and so on — it is essential for life. But when ingested it’s 15:28, 29) Also, God views blood as representing life. (Leviticus 17:14) So we avoid taking blood not only in obedience to God but also out of respect for him as the Giver of life.”

      In Summary, the JW Organization view is:

      1)  Bible says to abstain from blood.
      2)  Life is in the blood – respect Jehovah as life giver.

      MY RESPONSE:

      I just don’t get it.  What am I missing here?  We know the there is much health advice in the Old Testament.  Blood in the heart and vessels is essential for life, but when ingested through the mouth and into the stomach, it is toxic. Okay, so it is good medical advice not to ingest blood.

      How is a blood transfusion not respecting Jehovah as life giver?  I get the opposite thought.  By embracing the life and healing benefits of blood transfusions are we not showing our appreciation to Jehovah for his provision of the live giving benefits He has provided in blood?

      To make a rule of no blood transfusions allowed, which has often resulted in death of a loved one, is not a position I would want to have to defend some day when standing before Jehovah’s judgement seat.

      • Anonymous

        Peter K. I’ve been thinking the same thing….blood represents LIFE then why not use it save a LIFE, providing it’s not contaminated but then again without “wordly” donators the Jws couldn’t get blood fraction!

        • Jacqueline

          And Blood was put over the doorposts in the exodus..to save a life, (firstborn). Jesus blood was poured out to save a life. The sacrifices in israel, the blood saved their lives. In fact blood has been USED to save the lives of many in the bible. IT is another organ transplant just liquid so we infuse it.

        • Jacqueline

          Also anonymous, the Society said persons getting heart Heart transplant took on the personality of that person, who could be evil. They demonized kidney transplants because of the scripture about the kidney being deep seated and containing emotions. They dropped all of that when elders and some in bethel needed kidneys. Am elder in my old congregation lives 3min from me and have had 2 transplants over a 15 year span and is happy. His entire family dies from kidney failure. It was rumored his witness sister didn’t get one many years ago and just died. I really liked her. If she had lives 5more yrs. She might have lives longer with a now okay transplant doctrine. So how do these men sleep at night?

          • Anonymous

            That’s so sad Jacqueline!The thing is most of the newer generation of witnesses will never know what happened in the past unless they really dig and they won’t be inclined to do that unless they start having nagging doubts about something,unfortunatly, it some many years before they realize something’s wrong.

            • Jacqueline

              And that is why we write! So that it can be found even after we are gone. I dug into websites old archives when I was escaping. They never knew I was on there for hours, often the sun would come up. I would be up all night. Witnesses worked for me so it was often difficult to hide in my own business. One of my pioneer employees told the elders and CO that I was on apostate sites. When they approached me, they were surprised when I said you run things down here at the KH but I run things in my practice, case closed. I asked if they wanted to tell me which employee. They said no, so I said then I am not discussing it without them present. So posting for future is important, I feel

              • Anonymous

                Right Jacqueline…Let’s keep writting!BTW,why haven’t you been Df’d from the Jw’s?

                • Jacqueline

                  Anonymous, I would have to violate a law of God to be disfellowshiped. (adultery, stealing, lying, etc and in a pattern and unrepentant ). And I would have a lawyer since it is a judicial committee, a legal term. They are religious, so we would have to have it filed in civil court since they have no judicial capacity in the United states. I inadvertently was awarded a non expiring restraining order against the watchtower Society and anyone acting in their behalf. They interjected themselves in a civil matter I had with am elder, my stalker. They sent a letter and 2 elders to court with this man. Their lawyers knew the letter in his behalf was a lie. The elder broke down and confessed that he had been my stalker for 9years and confessed at least 6 times to CO and other elders. I later learned they wanted to discredit me because a young pedophile victim was filing a lawsuit against them and I was a key witness for the victim and the state.
                  Also, how do you df someone that is not in your religion for 4 years now and readily and openly proclaim that they are not? Take care.

                  • Anonymous

                    Wow Jacqueline if that happened to me I wouldn’t set foot in a KH ever again!But you go sometimes for your relatives sake right? So these “elders” just straight up lied, that reminds me of a court case I read about in the book “in search of christian freedom” by RF.

                    • Jacqueline

                      Anonymous, I continued going for 9 yrs as like so many witnesses, I believed the deception that you have to belong to the organization as the ark of salvation . When 2Peter clearly states that the ark is Jesus and his random for all mankind. My journey out was greatly helped by reading x governing body member Raymond Franz two books ” In Search of Christian Freedom” and “Crisis of Conscience”. They can be found in pdf by googling those titles or very cheap on Amazon used books. Time magazine featured Br Franz on their cover under the title “The most burned book in America.” He was a humble and truthful man, having letters to support everything he said. My eyes were opened by God to clearly see and listen to what was being taught at the KG after my court trial. In his wisdom he knew I had to see with His help that they were a hoax, a cleverly disguised money making corporation using religion like tel evangelizers.
                      Btw were you aware that the July 15, 2013 now says there is no faithful and discreet slave class now but future appointment during the great tribulation. Now what about all the DF ones that answered no to the question “do you believe the GB is the faith and discreet slave ” and was df’d?
                      Once Jehovah’s Spirit interact with your mind you see things clearly. “Happy are those conscious of their spiritual need”.

                    • Anonymous

                      Jacqueline, I’ve read both books by RF and still have “In Search of Christian Freedom”…wonderful info!. About the “new light”,yes I must’ve read the July 15,2013 watch. about five times. You’re right about God’s spirit opening your eyes,it’s so sad to see so many of the “Borg” Jw’s being happy because they think it’s God’s “channel”,what can I say, ‘ignorance is bliss’, I used to be the same way.

                    • Jacqueline

                      Some have pointed the finger at other religions but they fail to realize no other religion carry the name of God on their backs. Other religions don’t disregard the fact that only the Jews are his witnesses. Rutherford said horrible things about the Jews to Hitler in his letters. (www.Jwfacts.com/scandals under letters to Hitler)
                      Jehovah says “I will bless those that bless Israel and I will Curse those that Curse Israel “. He does not go back on his word. Most Christian religions at least put Jesus out front and not a bunch of men. (catholic church excepted).
                      Worshipping men and an earthly so called manifestation of God’s kingdom on earth now is bold. How can they dictate kingdom interests when they say Christ has not come by their own admissons in their latest watchtowers. At one annual Meeting one GB member exclaimed (allegedly ) “if we are the GB let’s get to governing.) How pompous to lord it over others of the body of Christ. I have attended 2 of those meetings in person and the star studded event of CO,DO posturing was an eye opener. But, I was brainwashed into thinking( I must wait inside for Jehovah to discipline them. Many think that way now. But as they find info on the Web as Daniel 12 chapter says knowledge will abound. I am sure he will clearly reveal these supplanters of Israel. Sorry, but I tend to take it personally, this GB dissing Jesus.

                    • Anonymous

                      Amen Jacqueline! For years I put all the doubts and and things they’ve said that made you go….HUH!in the back of my head but my head is full now and I can’t make excuses any more…..I’m totally disinchanted with the watchtower!

  • Why is the questioned asked, “Does the Bible Support a Jehovah’s Witness Governing Body?” Should it not be, “Do the Teachings of Christ Support It?”

    All too often many are led (misled) to consult the Bible as if “it” itself is “the” final authority. It is Christ, The Word of God (a person), who one should look to as the final authority in these matters and the question in this regard is did he authorize or encourage the establishment of a Governing Body? Did he authorize the establishments of “corporations” and “societies?” Did he encourage or authorize legalization of his teachings?

    The answer is no! Men did this.

    Many of you have been carried along by a flood of legalization that you cannot see what has happened right before your very eyes.

    Buried beneathe false foundation of Governing Bodies, corporations, and societies is Christ. You have buried him! Now you focus on the teachings of men such as Charles Taze Russell and J.F. Rutherford and others. You fight over who founded or who did not found the Watch Tower and International Bible Students. You stand these men and organization on top of Christ and he is not heard and therefore impossible to be listened to.

    That is why the first things that come out of the mouths of those who are members of these organizations are: Charles Taze Russell, The Watch Tower Organization, the society, the Bible. Christ gets secondary and even tertiary treatment and mention.

    You have built up modern “golden” images and idols called “organizations” and “societies.” You have gathered men – such as Charles Taze Russell, J.F. Rutherford – around you and they are idolized and revered.

    2 Timothy 4:3-4 aptly speaks of YOU (though you think it does not):

    “For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.”

    You ears have been turned away from the truth (Christ’s Teachings) and you listen to the teachers you have accumulated about you.

  • Frank

    Was the Apostle Paul under the Control of a ‘Governing Body’?

    One of the key theological propositions of the WT Society is that the Organization is run by a ‘Governing Body’ appointed by God through Jesus Christ. To support this proposition, they claim that this mirrors how the 1st century Christian congregation was directed. So, let’s look at what the Bible record says about the early Christian congregation.

    The book of Acts recounts the pouring out of Holy Spirit on the 120 gathered in the upper room, and the early preaching work in and around Jerusalem. After the persecution following the murder of Stephen, all are scattered, except the apostles, who remain in Jerusalem. Attention now shifts to Philip, who preaches to the Samaritans and then to the Ethiopian eunuch. What directed Philip? Holy Spirit, or a supposed Governing Body? Clearly – Holy Spirit.

    Saul is then converted directly by an intervention of Jesus Christ, and commissioned to bear Jesus’ Name to the nations, kings and the sons of Israel.

    Let’s look at Paul’s own account of his life in the book of Galatians.

    Galatians 1:12–17. Paul is called through a revelation by Jesus Christ. He does NOT go into conference (consult) men, nor does he go up to Jerusalem to the apostles.

    1:18 Three years later he visits Peter in Jerusalem, and meets James (brother of Jesus, not the apostle), but sees no-one else of the apostles.

    2:1 Fourteen years pass. The question of circumcision of gentiles and observance of Law remains an issue. He returns to Jerusalem, as a result of a revelation. He discusses his ministry with the apostles. Is he missing the point, running in vain? Was circumcision compulsory? Was observance of the Law obligatory?

    2:4 Paul writes openly about ‘false brothers, brought in to spy on our freedom’ and says emphatically ‘to these we did not yield, not even for an hour.’
    [Comment: Paul had no time for those who wanted to ‘standardize and regiment / organize everybody to their liking. He came from the Pharisees, and had seen what that system had produced – men who worked against God]

    2:6 But those who seemed to be something – the outstanding men, to (Paul) they imparted nothing new.’
    In fact, when they (finally) recognize his apostleship, James, Cephas and John, the ones who ‘seemed to be pillars’, agree that Paul and Barnabas should go to the nations, while they would preach to those circumcised. Only we should keep the poor in mind.

    Let’s compare this with the account in Acts 15. Certain men came from Judea and began to teach ‘unless you get circumcised you cannot be saved.’ (The consensus of opinion among bible commentators is that these “certain men from Judea” believed that were acting under authority from James).

    Whatever the case, this results in confrontation with Paul and Barnabas, and the matter is referred to Jerusalem.

    At this ‘conference’ it is evident that already there are various interpretations of the Christian Good News, not long after Jesus’ ministry. For example, those believers of the sect of the Pharisees kept contending that it was necessary to get circumcised and to observe the Law of Moses.

    After much disputing, Peter makes a statement. He recounts his mission to witness to Cornelius, drawing attention to the fact that he was directed by Holy Spirit, and asking the Judaizers: ‘why are you making a test of God by imposing a yoke on these believers from the nations? We all trust to get saved through the undeserved kindness of the Lord Jesus.’ The multitude is now silent.

    Paul and Barnabas then recount how God has performed through them many signs and portents among the people of the nations. Proof positive that they are empowered and directed by Holy Spirit.

    James now addresses the assembly. He acknowledges the testimony of Peter, completely ignores what Paul and Barnabas have said, and then quotes scripture confirming the prophets agree with what Peter has said. He then says: “Henceforth, my decision is not to trouble those from the nations who are turning to God . . . “

    WHAT DOES ACTS 15 ACTUALLY PROVE?

    It is the claim of the WT Organization that the Account of Acts 15 establishes that a) there was a governing body, located in Jerusalem; b) that they were appointed to make decisions; c) that James was ‘presiding’ over the proceedings.

    However, if we consider Paul’s letters, especially the account in Galatians chapters 1 and 2, there is an entirely alternative reading:

    1) There was serious jealousy over Paul’s ministry, and opposition to his ‘freedom’ of action. (to coin a phrase, doubtless some called it a ‘spirit of independence’) Paul refers specifically to the interference of ‘the men from James’, and also to the ‘superfine apostles’. Diagnosis: people seeking prominence, and wanting to control the disciples.

    2) It’s interesting that apart from James, none of Jesus’ other ‘fleshly’ family receive any form of recognition. Was James falling prey to the age-old human ‘love of prominence’? I believe that Paul’s words (Galatians 2:4-6) indicate that this was the case.

    3) Is Acts 15:19 proof that James had authority to act as chairman? No. On the contrary, this can be read as James’ personal statement that he now accepts the evidence presented by Peter, Paul and Barnabas, and his undertaking to abide by it. One could say – James had to eat Humble Pie. (I, for one, do not for a minute believe the early Christians were any less prone to pride than people before or since, and any attempt to paint them as ‘saints’ does injustice to the scriptures, and people’s intelligence)

    4) Did the apostles reach a decision? No. The actual ‘decision’ had been made long before, by God. Read Acts 10. What Acts 15 actually establishes is that certain men right there in the Jerusalem congregation were blocking God’s Will. And it records the failure of the apostles to fully understand what God wanted, or to take decisive action to control people seeking prominence, and pushing their own ideas and agendas.
    If anything, the account at Acts 15 shows what happens when individuals try to set themselves up as “bosses”.

    Returning to Paul’s account in Galatians, he next writes: ‘However, when Cephas comes to Antioch, I resisted him face to face (for playing the hypocrite). For, before the arrival of CERTAIN MEN FROM JAMES, he used to eat with people of the nations, but, then they arrived, he went separating himself’. (Galatians 2:11)

    5) If the account in Galatians is chronological, then the problem with James (and the Judaizers) was NOT over. The effect was so negative that Paul felt compelled to resort to direct confrontation.

    6) The rest of the Book of Galatians then becomes very illuminating. On the one hand, there is the freedom that comes through Jesus Christ. On the other hand, they can again become enslaved into following humans, via an organizational structure.

    Conclusion: Just as one cannot slave for God AND for riches, one cannot follow Jesus AND a human organization. Paul knew this. That’s why he wrote: ‘the Jerusalem ABOVE is our mother, and we are free.’

    Interestingly, CT Russell clearly understood this. I recently came across a number of quotes from his writings where he speaks out very strongly AGAINST organization, and the dangers of placing ourselves under human leaders.

    Is this an additional reason why the current Watchtower leaders are wanting to relegate his activity into even more obscurity?

    • Jacqueline

      Frank they also went to Jerusalem because the problem came from the brothers from Jerusalem. There were also a lot more persons there than a governing body of seven. Maybe they will change that since now we can comment out loud about those teachings that don’t make sense. Here is a link to their new light changes before the magazine is released.

      http://jwsurvey.org/governing-body-2/new-light-watchtower-magazine-leaked-from-organization-weeks-ahead-of-general-release

      Tell us a little about you. Were you a witness for a long time? Have you left or fading? We’d love to hear your story as there are over 5,000 persons on this site per month and many will be encouraged to know that they are not the only ones awakening and thinking. Take Care my brother. In Christ Jacqueline

  • Dupin

    oops! A sentence which makes no sense there. It should read:

    “There is also something else one has to do and which the one looked to as laying down the framework for biblical study by the Bible Students look to taught, that is, look up all the passages which bear on a subject in the bible, include those which appear to contradict the verse and find the harmony between them.’

    My apologies.

  • Dupin

    An insightful comment on your part Pastor Brown.

    I’m sure you’ve heard of the “proof text” method of scriptural argumentation, it is the method favored by the Witnesses. The problem with that method is one has to be careful not to take the it out of context and give it a meaning clearly unintended. There is also something else one has to do and which the one looked to as laying down the framework for biblical study by the Bible Students look to, that is, look up all the passages which bear on a subject in the bible, include those which appear to contradict the verse and find the harmony between them.

    Those two important things is what the Governing Body of the Witnesses skip. They simply assert the authority to say what a scripture means and their flock has no choice but to accept it. They thus free themselves from the inconvenient restraints of the best methodologies for understanding God’s word in order to advance their teachings. I’m sure you’ll agree there is nothing new about that.

  • Pastor Brown

    JWS have seem to back up their relgion with absolute proof!Something as a Born again pastor I or We have not verified in all my years.

    • Jacqueline

      Hi Pastor Brown, Thank you for your comment and visiting the site. I don’t think there is any biblical support for a “governing body”. It is patterned after the Pope only there are more than one man that gets divine “claimed” authority from God to inteprete the bible for all mankind. I don’t think there is a scripture that says God only deals wth Jehovah Witnesses.

  • Michael S.

    OH one more thing, I was going to say, 28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, That was ran by holy spirit that temporary board of direction.. a further burden meaning it would LORD OVER the christan congregations and constantly be in their lives.. through whatever means of communication at their time. The JW governing body does lord over the worldwide congregations like a government and it’s people. Or a corporation and it’s corporate franchises.. Our Lord and Our Father are not franchises. nor corporate CEO’s. the problem is which makes me very, very, very upset with false religion is You have something good like the JW’s who teach a lot of truth, but have false religious methods to interpret scripture. which makes the bible look like a fairy tale book of Judeo-Christian nonsense. Because when i left the JW’s i felt like the bible was a bunch of judeo-christian fairy tales, but i have a deeper understanding of it now. But yes, These early christians tried their best not to be a burden to one another and for those who are on this site searching, you’ll have to dig deep into the scriptures and cross reference what the bible actually says, to publications that are misuderstood. My wife always told me, the worse things are done with the best intentions.

  • Michael S.

    This is the new world translation of Acts 15:22-31

    Then the apostles and the older men together with the whole congregation favored sending chosen men from among them to Antioch along with Paul and Bar´na·bas, namely, Judas who was called Bar´sab·bas and Silas, leading men among the brothers; 23 and by their hand they wrote:

    “The apostles and the older men, brothers, to those brothers in Antioch and Syria and Ci·li´cia who are from the nations: Greetings! 24 Since we have heard that some from among us have caused YOU trouble with speeches, trying to subvert YOUR souls, although we did not give them any instructions, 25 we have come to a unanimous accord and have favored choosing men to send to YOU together with our loved ones, Bar´na·bas and Paul, 26 men that have delivered up their souls for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We are therefore dispatching Judas and Silas, that they also may report the same things by word. 28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to YOU, except these necessary things, 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!”

    30 Accordingly, when these men were let go, they went down to Antioch, and they gathered the multitude together and handed them the letter. 31 After reading it, they rejoiced over the encouragement.

    If you would like i can break this down.. how i percieve it this was temporary.

    verse 24 is the real meat of this necessary passage, This was all ran by holy spirit, And it was NO further burden to the christan congregations of that time, just to clear up some rumors and wayward things spreading around.. IN my other post, i mentioned it was no easy task being a true christan in those days either.

    A governing body would be for the people, but it would be for the benefit of the people, the anointed class is the mediator of the word and of the teaching of Jehovah and Christ to the great crowd. not the Missionaries, or servants at bethel or anyone on special assignment.. Although they could be called anointed as well, (as some of them truly are,) a board of directors or governing body cannot be the be all.. end all of scritptual interpretation. That earthly representation is not by a board of humans who do pray earnestly for knowledge, only to find out that when the light keeps getting brighter they totally change something or a custom that was in place 20 years ago or even 5 or 10 years ago to something totally different and say.. well Jehovah is leading us, because now he wants it “this way..’ because the system is ending abruptly and big changes will happen. Recall the scripture said, Jehovah is the same in times of old, as he is today.” Evidence of christ leading the congregation is reflective on how he presented himself when he came down for our sins, it wasnt very showy display of change year to year, or from time to time, but a gradual yet normal life although he was the greatest man who ever lived.

    My point on all of this is. There was times for a ‘governing body then.” but more so on the lines of traveling overseers. but it wasnt a constant governing body on congregations in those days either, because as you can recall each congregation had the same beliefs but the interpretation was slightly different. And there were discreptancies even with paul and barnabas.

    i hope this clears up the scritpture.. I hope that all made sense.. It is late here.

    Be well

  • Storisea

    Governing Body

    Organization of the Christian Congregation. While Christian congregations of God were established in various places, they did not function independently of one another. Instead, they all recognized the authority of the Christian governing body at Jerusalem. This governing body was comprised of the apostles and older men of the Jerusalem congregation, there being no rival bodies elsewhere seeking to supervise the congregation. It was to the faithful Christian governing body of the first century C.E. that the issue of circumcision was submitted for consideration. When the governing body made its decision, as directed by the holy spirit, that decision was accepted and became binding upon all Christian congregations, these willingly submitting to it.—Ac 15:22-31.

  • pesila nxumalo

    how could anyone belief in a religion that was founded by an 18 year old who critsized what the original gospel was saying.all witnesses are narrow minded,full of hatred ang are angry people why would i want 2 b like u.false teachers.by the way i’m not religious at all,i dont believ in a religious god.

    • heckle&jeckle

      this site ,while i am not their spokesman at all , is not an official site of jw’s of the wtbs. its for ex-jw’s that leave or are leaving and still believe in god. actually leave because they do believe in god but things arent jiving from management.we often have the same anger as you do .

      • Jacqueline

        Heckle and jeckle. Thank you so much for your comment and help. Always feel free to comment on any subject.

      • Storisea

        Mr. Jekel Although I am not an official spokesperson for this site: I believe this IS NOT a site for JUST Ex Witnesses, as it invites all religions even Disfellowhiped person’s as yourself. Just say it out loud to everyone, an mostly to yourself… I am a disfellowshiped person form the organization of Jehovah God.. Now do you feel better, or are you still so bitter, for you wanting to commit some form or fornication, that led to your demise and now as a disfellowshiped person you feel the need still for a form of religion that will except less than perfect behavior from its patrons???

        Have you found one yet?? Oh that is right your disfellowshiped I cant talk to you ..your bad association see you made me talk to your stupidity oopie. ..

        • Jacqueline

          Hello Storisea, thanks for commenting. I don’t know if heckle&jeckle will see your comment as he is so busy since he has found Christ last I talked with him.
          But I would like to say his Christian commments and attitude has been a blessing. We benefit from the example of Moses and Aaron whose stepped out of their assigned place and into the place of God at Meribah and the golden calf incident. So we do not judge or assal the character of our commenters, for God and Jesus are the only acceptable judges. We don’t name call or label. You will find however that you will be running with horses and have stimulating conversation on this site so we welcome your CHRIST like comments. Take care my sister or brother.

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Friend – I am a bit confused. If you are not religious, why do you care about this discussion? In what way do you believe C.T. Russell criticized the original Gospel? We believe that he was trying to point everyone back to the original Gospel that was beforehand preached to Abraham, that through his seed ALL the families of the earth would be blessed. (Gal 3:8; Gen 12:3). I look forward to your reply.

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