When will Babylon the Great Collapse?

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When Will Babylon Collapse

Rev 16(NKJV)

12   Then the sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, so that the way of the kings from the east might be prepared.

13  And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14  For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15  “Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.”

16  And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.

17   Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, “It is done!”

18  And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth.

19  Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath.

20  Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

21  And great hail from heaven fell upon men, each hailstone about the weight of a talent. Men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, since that plague was exceedingly great.

8 comments to When will Babylon the Great Collapse?

  • First off, 8th King World government complete, functional (Dan11:45, Rev17:8-18) and “world peace” stated (1Thess5:1-3; Dan12:11), triggers Christ’s arrival, not before, but AFTER it completes. That takes several more years. BTG must ride that world government in world view, then it is deposed as will be shown why next.

    Christ must judge in complete Messianic Kingdom “court” in Dan7:26 Dan12:11 Matt24:31 parallels of that Christ arrival for Kingdom completion first, then the sheep sweep, then conquest. That arrival (Rev11:11-12; Matt24:29-31) STARTS the Revelation 14 sequence which is in that 8th King “one hour” of then complete WORLD GOVERNMENT for which the Babylon the Great (BTG) harlot endorses and is then deposed under world government for a number of reasons:

    1. The prophecies of Revelation 16:17-20, Revelation 14:6-8 and Revelation 17:12-18 ALL place BTG destroyed at the end of that sequence, 1 after Christ “air plague” arrival, 2 after 144000 Messianic Kingdom “court” completion of Matthew 25:31, Dan7:26 and 3 AFTER 8th King is in its completion form and its “one hour” permitted short reign on Earth.

    2. The 8th King Scarlet Wildbeast MUST be a complete form whole world government where all prophecy converges in terminal form, the end is AFTER 8th King world government completes after this next Rev13:3 sword stroke cycle produces not “the end: Matt24:6, but the global recovery healing to aid 8th King global world government presentation. The BTG harlot must also be in complete corporate global-religious form saying 666-World Government is from God for her pimps and Kings of the Earth Johns.

    3. BTG assets in the trillions will be preserved by the harlot which post world government deposition will aid that huge global recovery of Rev13:3, Isa41.

    4. Divisive religious error of BTG is most useful for the world war sword stroke global crisis to aid divisions in the spiritual realm such as with Islam and Christendom and the Israel thing.

    5. The King North 8th King complex CANNOT fight a global multi-front war against the Russia-China bloc, (or whoever it is that finally opposes Anglo-America 7th King King South engineers) AND athe gainst Babylon the Great massive religious global sell-out spiritual complex. So, they save BTG to endorse them in the end when world government completes and that complete harlot rides the beast in global view endorsing it and blessing it as God’s Kingdom on Earth.

    6. The deposition of BTG and its freeing effect aids the final WORLD EPACE AND SECURITY MANTRA OF WORLD GOVERNMENT, and is required for BTG to go down BEFORE that world peace of 1Thess5:1-3 is uttered by the 8th King system in “one hour” of power.

    7. God purposes to save “a tenth the city” of BTG as in Revelation 11:13, as many of “my people”, God’s people are still in that religious prison even at that time. Thus the OPEN SALVATION OFFER of Revelation 14:6-7 will be heralded by the Angels of Christ WHILE BTG is being destroyed so that BTG terminated announcement can be made in that Global Sheep Sweep sequence of Revelation 14:6-8 which is Revelation 14:14-16 “harvest of the earth” sheep.

    As in Revelation 10:5-7 Almighty God is a God of completion and this full course must complete fully over these last few years as Dan8:14 timign leads to Rev11:3 timing which leads to Dan12:11 timing, which is 1150min2300possible days, to 1260 days final witnessing to Christ arrival inception 1290 days open salvation offer of Rev14:6-7 time.

    Of course the UN NGO apostate WTBTS version of BTG downfall next is a lie, it is JW Org as Daniel 8:13-14 that goes down next.

    • Nubby Tope

      Hi TempleBBQ,

      I must say that I agree with most of what you say here as I’ve thought along similar lines for ages! And the elders thought I was nuts! One reason I left WT earlier this year after 59 years. After reading that Scripture in Daniel 8 v 13/14 I wonder – what makes you think this applies to WT and what and when is this 2300 days all about?

      • As the JW apostasy developed and I was getting Web information I was not satisfied with what I found on the Web. But in respect for brother Russell (for I do believe God did not waste Daniel’s time) that Daniel would be the first key. I speculated the prophecy is what will have a devolving blasphemy as stellar as this really is with that UN NGO and all.

        So as I read the real-problem prophecies in Daniel 8 and 11, because these are benchmarked on “gentile times” verifiable history, I found the Franz interps did not fly with globalization defining King North system, not nation-state “superior powers” actually placed by God in Genesis 10 and Romans 13. I feel Fred would have updated the meaning of a required Dan11:36c “successful all the way” King North for that USSR national-bloc botch, but he died or was helped along in that process to keep it all silent.

        1. God has foretold WORLD GOVERNMENT, yes, BUT in the hands of King of kings Christ in Kingdom of David Covenant power as long foretold. Thus, when they come up with the opposite, that is anti-Christ 666 WORLD GOVERNMENT of the own human/demon design, THAT is what is the final straw as far as sovereign overstep.

        But I digress, the IMPORTANCE of Daniel 8:14 is that the GB have been applying themselves as the temple cleansing angel while on the other hand building a FAKE “theocratic organization” to complete their hierarchical tyranny all the way down to the congregations, as well as ruling the top iron-fisted with a fistful of 30 BILLION dollars.

        Nubby, this is very important, because the GB has implikcated themselves in Daniel 8:13-14 because in reality they have brought the temple into the diametric WRONG CONDITION. And because it is now tied to them in Daniel 8:14 from their own lying mouths, capitalizing on a Fred Franz error and keeping it— when it does ffulfill it will connect back to the very root of the real “wrong condition” problem AND with a prophecy mostly unknown to JWs. Although they have spun this convoluted joke of an “organizational [idol] charter adjustments” TWICE, it is kept back-burner and is unknown by JWs, just ask an elder and he will have to go research a week and still not be able to explain the WT versions, 2 of them, the last sliding up in time to coincide WW2 to make it seem valid.

        Secondly, Daniel 8:23 and Daniel 11:31b are parallels of that 1990 3rd UN event. Now as the League of Nations was first conencted to “image of the wildbeast” actually world government nucleus prophecy, that is just the international forum and executive branch, and WW2 resulted in United Nations SO THE THIRD UN WILL ALSO BE FORETOLD AFTER THE DANIEL 11:29 NOTED UNIQUE COLD WORLD WAR TYPE AND CHARACTER. It stands to reason God will track the wildbeast image the whole way in gentile history because UN1-2-3 as we are really at leads to FULL SCARLET WILDBEAST and its Executive Brnach nucleus “image” in UN1-2-3-4 in the future as WORLD GOVERNMENT. Thus tracking UN1-2 to 3 would make “foursquare earthly completeness” UN 4 in World Government much easier to see, but the Globalist GB KN allies of Daniel 11:32a endorsed the UN system as UN NGO and they now cover up this prophecy to lobby for UN IGOs now instead.

        Thus Daniel 8:11-14 and Daniel 11:30-35 are:

        1. Benchmarked with the “King Fierce” greatest victory ever, a cold defeat of the USSR and a sign of convergence that all 8th King, King North, Daniel 2 WHOLE image prophecy is all the same entity: final overstretch of sovereignty WORLD GOVERNMENT.

        2. The GB linking themselves with Daniel 8:14 while in fact their tie is the UN NGO “transgression causing desolation” [to the JW ministry in the near future for minimum 1150 days, 2300 days with recovery possible] which is the Christ Daniel prophecy to note for modern times of Matthew 24:15, btw, as that disgusting thing is UN 3, that THEY PLACED, not just King North but also the GB as Daniel 11:31b.

        2. Thus in Gentile Times history of the Revelation current 1260 days, Daniel 8 and 11 in 8:11-13 and Daniel 11:30-35 is all benchmarked in time and 3rd UN history with this “as the [temple] transgressors” in JWs as Daniel 8:23a, also “lawless one reveals” as “those leaving the holy covenant” of Daniel 11″30b, and the “fortress, sanctuary and constant feature” PROFANERS of Daniel 11:31a. That has been all final-signal-apostasy en route to their co-placement as UN NGO of the DT among JWs, for that NWO Mantra 3rd UN presentation of 1990 throwing Bible researchers off because of its Daniel 11:29 unique COLD War nature, as they do not see that too is a world war cycle, even if cold in nature, “different the last than at first” as in Daniel 11:29 for this very reason. Thus, Daniel’s Prophecy places these subverters of Daniel 8:12 in gentile time history with UN 3, 1990 and that is the Daniel 11:32a key-apostasy among JWs as led by their KN GB fakes, Rev2:2 liars.

        Thus, if JW Org never pays the price, this would all be crazy specualtion. BUT when they do pay the price, the “trampling” of Daniel 8:13 as the “invasion” of Daniel 11:41 in the Daniel 11″42-43 King South nation-state authority downfall coming up with this last sword stroke cycle (Rev13:3), THEN it can be explained with a verified timing of Daniel 8:14, AND it will be clear as a bell when it all fits, and it will all fit. Because like brother Russel in 1914 with that seven times, God marks a judgment period, this temple judgment period too next, with a verifiable wake-up prophecy to kick off the phase and to revive those asleep as in Matt25:1-13 which is the whole ten virgin body.

        But as you know only half will be approved and Nubby this is VERY IMPORTANT. Brother Russell identified the original OIL of them ten virgins, and the five discreet virgins preserved some for the next light up of enlightenment and it is that first OIL that is saved. That is to say the 1260 days which began in 1914 as the 2520 years ended, was arrived to by Russell even though he died late 1916.

        IT IS THE SAME PATTERN, SWORD STROKE RESOLVED PEACEFULLY TO WORLD GOVERNMENT AMIDST A 1260 DAY WARNING BASIC PATTERN. THAT OIL is the key to five discreet virgin coming validity inspite of many “sellers oil” out there now to get even worse when JW Org is trampled and their enf of the world prophecy fails big time in the future. As the final witnessing 1260 days ends of them TWO witnesses, it will be the same message as IBSA “first witness” 1260 days and it will equate to 2520 DAYS as the final “seven times”. TWO WITNESSINGS of 1260 DAYS are how God completes Revelation 10:5-7, it MUST have TWO sovereign warnings of God’s Kingdom this time as the 8th King designate is heading for United Nations 4, or whatever they finally brand its final name as, for World Government.

        THAT world government “peace and security” a grandiose “world peace” proclamation of the 8th King after or during BTG demise, is that 1Thess5:1-3 very important final sign. We have several more years left, Daniel 8:14 cleanses the anointed temple into the right condition which timing eventually leads to Rev10 re-commission of Zech3:6-8 for temple completion announcement as well as Messianic Kingdom, which starts that final 1260 days of Rev11 as Dan 12:7 parallel which leads to Christ arrival as the final ministry is ceased by the enemy system.

        That is “after the complete their witnessing” (Rev11:7; Rev17:8-12) the 2witnesses “three and a half day death state” merges into the 1290 days starting and the Daniel 12:11 [1] final constant feature ceased as [2] they place the disgusting thing in final world government form. That is, Christ arrives in the then newly active 1290 days where the 3.5 days death state expires as in Rev11:7-12, and he arrives for first priority sheep gathering of Matt24:31, Rev14:6-7, Rev11:13 for the full 1290 days as OPEN SALVATION GUARANTEE PERIOD being wrapped up by the Holy Angels of Christ, that is the whole “week of open salvation offer of Dan9:27 and Genesis 7:4. 1260 days and 1290 days all open for salvation, which the “2300 evenings and mornings” of Daniel 8:14 will lead to in cleansed preparation of the Revelation 8 “fire of the altar” as Zech3:2 cleansing fire of Malachi 3:1-5 and Isaiah 6 comes on JWs for a signal to all anointed everywhere for they are NOT all in JWs.

        Thus the final sealing is given by delivery of the little scroll message which is part of the “reports that disturb” King North (Dan11:44) ascending as 8th King into world government. That final ministry is ceased to define Rev11:7-10 as Dan12:11 culmination of final dashing power of holy ones to pieces of Daniel 12:7, Rev13:5, Dan7:25— but that final warning will complete seven times as 2520 days, and be valid to seal the alst of the 144000 and thus God can complete Temple and Kingdom Zech6:9-15 as Christ Zech 4 “head stone” completion “stone” of Zech3:8 can be placed as King-Priest official in Messianic Kingdom capacity and thus he arrives to gather those final stones and thus God sets him as the last stone in the Temple as he was the first, and King of king coronation King as that was that warning 1260 days was leading to, and sheep sweep global first, then conquest on 8th King Scarlet Wildbeast World Government.

        Nubby, this time we have to have the whole story BEFORE it fulfills fully, we will not be able to re-examine the prophecy in hindsight this time, for then it would be too late. And the original Russel era “OIL” is the OIL to preserve and not buy every sellers version out there, the real oil shines real light when the approved 5 discreet virgins are woken up in the future for “morning” phase Daniel 8:14,26 final enlightenment phase recovery and deployment. That is all in Daniel 8 and 11 in those cited areas.

        Be careful, BTG will try to sell 8th King NWO World Government as the meaning of prophecy. But we knew that already.

      • Nubby, this is more complete research on the importance of the GB blasphemy they cleansed the temple as Daniel 8:14, which they did the opposite IN REALITY.


      • One final note on why that 1914-1918 IBSA “oil” is the same stuff to “light up” the meaning of what is coming as in Revelation 1:1, that we have to KNOW “the things which must shortly take place”, BEFORE it happens, not after, as shown in the intent of that prophecy.

        1. The sovereign warning of 1914 will re re-iterated by the last witnessing of them TWo witnesses and that for also 1260 days.

        2. As in 1914 when the first witness was giving the initial warning, WW1 broke out as a massive global distraction, it resolved into the Globalist League of Nations presentation as the sovereign warning of God’s Kingdom was deploying concurrently. Thus it is a sword stroke in principle that resolved, as in WW2 and as in Cold WW3 even if the Cold War was more psychological, the USSR fell for that 3rd UN presentation of 1990, its unique nature as noted in Daniel 11:29 is all that threw many people off that it was a world war cycle being resolved because it was uniquely cold in nature.

        3. This last witnessing of the TWO witnesses will also be accompanied by a global sword stroke in some global crisis manner as a distraction, and it too will “heal” and resolve into the final UN pitch, but with a whole scarlet wildbeast 8th King world government. Just as in 1914 and WW1, the warning leads into the rival sovereign competitor presenting their counterfeit— this time Christ arrives into that mix to complete the Messianic Kingdom, but that 1914-1918 Master Pattern is the same as this coming one, same message, same “oil” to enlighten its meaning when it does come, and why only five of them ten virgins will have some reserved 1914-1918 first witnessing oil, because it is the same thing, just reiterated in final form as the 8th King completes world government inspite of TWO witnessings of warning.

        All the applicable sovereign prophecies like Dan7:25-26, Dan12:7-11, Rev11:2-3, Rev12:14, Rev 13:5 activate with that final 1260 days parallel concurrency, the WHOLE THING REPEATS and that first witnessing is what makes it ascertainable this time before it happens, it truly is the same “oil”, same message, final enlightenment of the Christ arrival campaign. This time it is in final form.

  • Una

    When will Babylon the Great be destroyed? Before or after the start of the 1000 years? Reading Revelation 14 seems like After the start of the 1000 years. Thank you

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Una – Can you help by explaining what verse you are referring to in Revelation 14?

      I believe the 1,000 years begins with Christ’s return (Revelation 20).

      Let’s look at Revelation 18.

      Revelation 18:1-4 (NKJV) “1 After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory.
      2 And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird!
      3 “For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”
      4 And I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues.”

      The word “angel” means “messenger.” This messenger coming out of heaven is the chief messenger of Jehovah, Jesus Christ. So at his return the denominational systems had been judged and it was time for the true Christians to come out of the denominational churches and into association together in Christian unity and liberty. The Church/State union and control was destroyed. This destruction is in stages.

      Just as Christ has body members, so does Satan. That is why Jesus said, “If Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself.” (Matt 12:26). Satan as “the god of this world” (2 Cor 4:4) has a vast evil spiritual government as his disposal. (Eph 6:12). In Revelation, the “dragon” represents civil power. The binding of Satan, the dragon, encompasses his empire and culminates with his personal restraint.

      This binding begins with Jesus second presence and occurs in 4 stages: (Rev 20:1-3)
      1) laid hold on the dragon
      2) cast him in the pit
      3) slammed it shut
      4) sealed him in tight

      After this, Satan “will not deceive the nation’s until the thousand years are finished.” Rev 20:3 His ability to deceive diminishes throughout the process until the final stage where he is sealed tight in the pit.

      We find a parallel to this when the “stone” (spiritual kingdom Dan 2:44) strikes the Gentile empire image of civil governments, which is destroyed in 4 stages as well.
      1) stone strikes image (vs 34)
      2) breaks images in pieces (vs 34)
      3) broken pieces of image crushed like chaff of summer threshing floors (vs 35)
      4) Wind blows chaff away (vs 35)

      We do see denominational church attendance continually declining. Babylon’s final destruction is near. We don’t know exactly when this process will be complete. However, it will be in this beginning part of the 1,000 years, not the end of it.

      I hope this helps.

      • Lee Anthony (Brandon)

        I was reading on into 18 vs. 9-24 and it seems that at 1st glance babylon is finally completely destroyed just prior to, or at the moment of the completion of the bride class (chap 19 vs. 1-20.) Does this seem to be logical or am I missing something? I am only recently re- studying this topic after waking up from Jw land…

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