Listen to this years Memorial Service given to the Chicago Bible Students on April 5, 2012.

What should a Memorial Service be like?  Listen to this talk and let us know what you think.  Is this what a Memorial Service should be like?  If not, how should it be different?  How is this service different than what you would hear in a Kingdom Hall?

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9 comments to Listen to this years Memorial Service given to the Chicago Bible Students on April 5, 2012.

  • ZionsHerald

    Sanura,

    The word for “day” in the very first chapter of Genesis where it states “the evening and the morning were the first day” comes from a Hebrew root meaning “to turn” or “to twist away from the light. This is how the earth creates the day and night effect that we see around us. The earth turns on its axis away from the light creating the evening.

    Much of Scripture is written in a poetic or even prophetic form. Thankfully many have come to the light that the poetic descriptions of a ‘burning hell’ are not literal depictions of where unbelievers are doomed. Unfortunately the Jehovah’s Witnesses returned to the pagan notion that all unbelievers are doomed (which they believe happens in Armageddon).

    Thankfully the Scriptures teach that there is to be an opportunity for all, even for those who either don’t believe like we do, or even disagree. Thank goodness we have the liberty to disagree and yet be unified as brothers and sisters.

    Jeff

  • I had a wonderful Passover learning with the Jewish customs of all passover symbols and what each one means in Christ. I have learned so much since leaving JW. God keeps on answering my prayers. I am happy you are good too!

    I don’t believe in “space junk debris” persoanlly however.

    Anyone who wants to learn about “Why The Earth Doesn’t Spin” please read info below. God bless. 🙂

    That chinese space station (link comment above) is not anywhere in actual heavenly “space” which is Gods domain area, we are all earth bound in the “Firmament”. Earth is our only territory and not outside it. That space station is actually above high up, but not in actual what we all call space, or as we think of space. It explodes today April 1, 2018 as they lost control of it, and good for that,. They say its in Space and whoever believes that as truth can, I sincerely do not at all.

    The word “Nasa” in Hebrew means to “to deceive”. Their NASA abbreviation meaning is just made to fit that actual word. Satan leads Nasa to deceive all away from what the Bible actually tells us how the earth is shaped. They have symbolic meanings all over the Nasa emblems and their flags too that go against God completely. Even mocking God.

    There is “no spinning” to earth. That is a false teaching and extremely unbiblical as well.

    For those that believe that the earth spins it actually goes against scripture. But all have to make their own conscious choice up of what to believe. If many believe that they just didn’t know in ancient Biblical times enough science, yes they did know how the earth was shaped because Gods word is the Bible.

    I know many will still believe NASA and Science over Gods actual word. But I have found all Nasa teaches to mostly be FALSE and to lead more into not believing in how God created the Earth. Now, so many of are fighting back for real truth and that is a good thing. Its like God is helping lead more to know and understand and remove the false Spinning Earth and Big Bang theories.

    Many will say the earth shape and how it works doesn’t matter because we are all living in it, well to many of us it does matter. I was already able to help many see the truth and now they are looking at scripture instead of science claims. Nasa is getting ripped apart right now. They put out too many false claims and people are waking up to it all. Still they will slam what the scriptures are saying and still they will slam anyone who goes against their Science. The internet is completely full of lies. The truth is in the Bible, that is it period.

    Nikola Tesla knew much about how God designed the world, as they hid his work and tried to bring him down and succeeded doing so. They still try to say his work didn’t uncover anything when much of it it did indeed, yet another lie.

    The Earth works not with a Gravity theory of pulling us all toward the center of earth, including water. The Earth works with Magnetism, Energy, Frequency. Everything on Earth has a frequency. Our bodies, animals, nature, water, everything. There is a number code order to all things. God is the greatest scientist of all and no man will ever come close, even to understanding how he creates how he does.

    We are on the ground, the air is above us, birds fly up no such thing pushing them down false theory, water surrounds us all, the glass dome celling as a “looking glass”, circle below, is what God sees when he looks down on all of the earth from above; the center top of earth looking down. When Jesus is above truly “all eyes will see”. When they look down below from the top of the massive circle, they see everything. Not as a “spinning globe” at all. Satan added that one in as a mockery to God. Everything on earth is perfectly level.

    NASA and among many more use the fisheye lens.
    Air Plain windows are also round, so when you look out of them you see a visual curve.
    When many study about Rainbows and how they appear, they begin to see how Gods earth shape dome top “Firmament” works.

    Listen as government mocks God saying the phrase: we have shattered our glass ceiling with thousands of holes

    NASA says about spinning Earth that we are all carried around the sun at a velocity of 66,600 mph. SAY THAT AGAIN? 666 WHAT? Thank you once again Illuminati (elite world leaders, the beasts) for pointing us all in the right direction. (They round it to 67,000 since so many people got upset about that by the way, maybe because we are AWAKE to it.)

    The “North Star Polaris” – star trails – prove the earth is “not spinning”.

    God uses patterns in all his creation designs. The world just like the design in the “seed of life” or called the flower of life design, shows Gods creation design in perfection. That design is within everything on earth. What is NASA doing with it, the flower seed of life creation design, they are trying to take that design now and apply it to their new one world government flag. Mocking God yet once again.

    The location whose latitude line and longitude line intersects the most land mass of any point on earth is Jerusalem, Israel.

    Book: 200 Proofs the Earth Is Not A Spinning Ball – Eric Dubay

    I stopped trusting NASA and Fake Science bogus theory claims. God has all the answers we need. The answers are as clear as day when we really awaken to them all and truly stop trusting mankind or Satans world leaders and authority to brain wash us into believing things like a rediculous spinning earth theory. No one can even prove the earth spins, why, because it simply does not spin.

    The number of verses that teach the earth is a round spinning ball orbiting the sun? 0

    Most say oh its just poetic symbolism in scripture, thats all it is. Um, no. For those stuck about the four corners of the earth as well, the brain only sees a globe. Nasa has put plenty of false earth images out for all to believe as truth.

    I have found all my truth answers. I truly am no part of this world.

    So I hope anyone reading this is also able to find their own truth answers as well. God lets you see every answer to every questions when your trust is truly 100% in him and him alone. God Bless.

    John 8:32 – And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free – Jesus Christ

    — BIBLE SCRIPTURES EARTH SHAPE —-

    Genesis 1:6
    And God said, Let there be a Firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

    Genesis 1:14
    And God said, Let there be lights in the Firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years.

    Matthew 4:8
    Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.

    Acts 10:11
    And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending upon him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth.

    Acts 11:5
    I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me.

    Joshua 10:13
    And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

    Job 9:8
    Which alone spreadeth out the heavens, and treadeth upon the waves of the sea.

    Job 37:18
    Hast thou with him spread out the sky, which is strong, and as a molten looking glass

    Psalms 19:1
    The heavens declare the glory of God; and the Firmament sheweth his handywork.

    Psalms 93:1
    The LORD reigneth, he is clothed with majesty; the LORD is clothed with strength, wherewith he hath girded himself: the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved.

    Psalm 96:10
    Say among the heathen that the LORD reigneth: the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved: he shall judge the people righteously.

    Psalms 102:25
    Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

    Psalms 104:2
    Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain.

    Psalms 104:5
    Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever.

    Psalms 148:4
    Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be ABOVE the heavens.

    1 Chronicles 16:30
    Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall BE STABLE, that it be NOT MOVED.

    Isaiah 38:8
    Behold, I will bring again the shadow of the degrees, which is gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned ten degrees, by which degrees it was gone down.

    Isaiah 40:22
    It is he that sitteth upon the CIRCLE of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.
    (*sits above the circle of the earth looking down upon it all from the top, stretched out, no globe ball)

    Isaiah 44:24
    Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself.

    Isaiah 45:12
    I have made the earth, and created man upon it: I, even my hands, have stretched out the heavens, and all their host have I commanded.

    Isaiah 45:18
    For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

    Isaiah 48:13
    Mine hand also hath laid the Foundation of the earth, and my right hand hath spanned the heavens: when I call unto them, they stand up together.

    Jeremiah 10:12
    He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.

    Jeremiah 49:36
    And upon Elam will I bring the four winds from the four quarters of heaven, and will scatter them toward all those winds; and there shall be no nation whither the outcasts of Elam shall not come.

    Daniel 4:11
    The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth.

    Zechariah 12:1
    The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

    Deuteronomy 10:14
    Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD’s thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.

    Ezekiel 7:2
    Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.

    2 Peter 3:5
    For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water.

    Revelation 7:1
    And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

    Revelation 4:6
    And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

    Revelation 15:2
    And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

    Revelation 20:8
    And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

    Revelation 1:7
    Behold, he cometh with clouds; and EVERY eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
    (*flat earth, no spinning globe, all eyes shall see, it is the truth as all eyes shall see)

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Sanura good morning and thanks for posting.
      Wouldnt it be nice if all the world governments and scientist could work so completely together like this when it comes to peace and harmony in the world? Take care

    • Anon JC

      The Bible doesn’t say the earth is flat. We’ve seen it from space. Most “Flat earth” are all theory and no actual facts.

    • Anon JC

      By the way. The scriptures you posted in in no way show the earth is flat. How can a flat desk have “four corners”? It can’t. Their scriptures are symbolic. No angel will be standing on the earth. Stop getting everyone to try to see your point. The earth has been pictured and it is round. Every planet is round. The moon is round. Not flat.

      • When you are taught a false truth from Birth its hard to realize the real truth. Hopefully you will one day.

        Here is a start for you:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afYcxy_JadY

        • Anon JC

          So the pictures we have of the earth are all lies!?!?!?The astronauts are all lying and yet you believe a YouTube Video? And people who just go on a place and think the earth is flat therefore that’s proof? I guess the moon is made of Cheese too. The Bible doesn’t say the earth is flat. None of your scriptures prove the earth is flat. Every planet is round and yet you think the earth is flat? Please. Sweetie it’s called a conspiracy theory. These same people also say China doesn’t exist and the holocaust didnt happen. I know you’ve lived a life where you didn’t get to research in your own but sweetie here’s a tip: not everything you see in the internet is true!! We have pictures of the earth and it was never flat. None of your scriptures show the earth is a disk, flat. Here’s a scripture for you to take to heart.

          Ephesians 4:14
          Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.

  • This Saturday April 1, 2018 – April 1 fools day for unbelievers. – Nissan 14 – Watch in the sky too as it falls to earth. / The “Heavenly Palace” will fall from the heavens at around 3:30 a.m. Pacific Time on Sunday! / between 43 degrees North and 43 degrees South latitude / look it up the chinese space station they lost control falls to earth April 1!!!

    Learn more about whats happening Passover 2018:
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MujyQcei-WQ&feature=youtu.be

    Falls to earth – chinese space station – April 1, 2018:
    https://www.cnet.com/news/where-chinese-tiangong-1-space-station-could-crash-april-1/

    • Jacqueline (Bible Student)

      Hi Sanura, there is a lot of space debris out there, some is bound to fall to earth. Hopefully this hits water and not land.
      How are you and family?
      We had Memorial last night and the witnesses will Saturday so I hope this event is uneventful. Take Care

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