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My Story – Part 2 – A New Hope (Outside of the JW Organization)

I waited to write this portion of my story, until I had something solid to write.

Grieving takes time, it is a process.  I could not personally skip a step.  It has been one (1) year five (5) months. I also feel Jesus had to humble me and make me rely on him and Jehovah before he could use me for whatever purpose he has in mind. I am still a work in progress. I am learning obedience now.

These are the steps I had to go through. It may not be the same for everyone.

First:  Awareness with hurt.   Second:  Anger and confusion. Third: I looked for a way out with the least possible resistance. Last:  I accepted the fact that I had been deceived and needed to move forward.

While we are listening to a talk or reading from the Bible, first comes thoughts. We think about what we are hearing, and we analyze it. Then that stirs feelings within us. The feelings could be strong or they could be fairly passive. And then finally those feelings impel us to action, or inaction. I took this path of action.

The Watchtower January 1, 2009 (public issue). The title is“What We Learn from Mary.” What Mary’s Example Can teach us? Page 7 Box (Directquote).“Mary was born into a Jewish family and she followed theJewish religion. She attended the local synagogue, as the Jewish place ofworship is called and she visited the temple in Jerusalem. As Mary’s knowledgeof God’s purposes grew, however, she came to see that the traditions of herfathers no longer had God’s approval. Jewish religious leaders had her son, theMessiah, put to death. Before that happened, Jesus announced to them: “Look!Your house is abandoned to you.” (Matthew 23:38) God withdrew his blessing fromthe religious system in which Mary had been raised.-Galatians 2:15, 16When the Christian Congregation was formed, Mary may have
been about 50 or so. What would she do? Did she reason that she had been borninto the Jewish religious system and that she wanted to remain loyal to thetraditions of her forefathers? Did she say that she was too old to change? Ofcourse not! Mary understood that God’s blessing was now with the Christiancongregation, so she had the faith and courage to change.” End of quote.

This is my story of a new life and finding the Truth. Earlier I told of finding the Bible Students from my past as a young girl. I was very familiar with everything they were doing. They did not stand still however, they are very progressive. We can bring laptop computers to the conventions and they provide the power. You can lookup multiple translations and the program is online if you have to leave for any reason. You don’t miss a thing. We have real food, with vegetables and all. It is catered. Works just fine and your families are properly nourished for the day. They serve breakfast, lunch and dinner. Children are in their classes according to age.  I love that!!! The little ones are playing with toys. They have their own teachers. Loving it!!!. I wish my grandchildren could be in that environ while at the meetings and conventions. There are no severe spankings of little children to make them sit perfectly for hours on end. These observations may only be my own personal pet peeves. I am not trying to be judge, just reporting what I see and have experienced. I have learned that just because a religion is different on EVERY LITTLE THING, that does not make it God’s channel. To see those smiling young people warms the heart. I focus on these seemingly little things because LOVE is the identifying quality (1Cor. 13:1-13). I don’t care if you are speaking the Gospel truth, I can’t hear it if you are mean, demanding, authoritative and breaking up my family.

But still, I knew I needed to vent my anger- somehow to persons that would understand, had been there also .   I was told of a call in program by an ex-elder. www.sixscreensofthewatchtower.com.  Rick Fearson’s forum allows you to talk with hundreds of people and they help you. They don’t get angry when you vent. It has former JW elders (many). Sometimes Bible Student elders are on too , many sisters and brothers that help you get over your anger and hurt.  Next there is Richard Rawe, a very, very gentle servant of the Lord for many years. He’s from the early 1940’s.  His kind manner is never ending. He has Biblical discussions with many guest speakers. Some of them will start your brain to thinking, all the rust falls off and the oils are flowing. This is on Saturday night. We can ask questions even respectfully disagree . Also we get together on Sunday morning alternating with the Joe Emerson’s hook-up. Here we all read and discuss scripture. Everyone participates. We use the Bible only. It is not a book study.  When there is a question, someone volunteers to look it up for next week and give a 3-5 minute presentation. We all have such aids before us as “Expanded Biblical Comments”, “Aid to Bible understanding” (mustn’t throw baby out with bath water, Ray Franz held closely to truth) and many more. It sharpens your thinking and mind to hear other thoughts on scripture. You really have to relearn truth.  You may stay on for the “Upper Room Ministry”. There are people meeting together and they participate and you can interact with them by commenting.  Its formal yet not formal. Sometimes active witnesses are there. some of us sisters are on skype during the meetings and can see each other and type. It’s very productive, 4 or more can be on at once.

Once a month we have the Web-cast from Bible Students. We actually see the speakers and can type to others on the Internet hook-up.  NOW SOMETHING NEW IS STARTING!

Monthly beginning March 13, 2011 we can have Bible discussions in the evening on Sundays, from   6-8pm CST. This is a Bible Student forum, we can ask questions, listen and join in on the pre-show, sort of a meet and greet for fellow listeners. Most witnesses will recognize this as the original International Bible Students.

Bible Student Conventions are held at different places and I have been able to meet up with Friends I met at the General Convention and other conventions. See listings under conventions to the right.

There are two Bible Student groups in my area to meet with and we meet with the large, Chicago Group every fourth Sunday. There are no time slips to turn in. You just talk-talk-talk for the Lord, he is looking on and helping. No banging on empty houses, you connect with people, that want to know, as the disciples of Christ did. It’s very rewarding.

YOU DO NOT LEAVE JEHOVAH, when you leave the watchtower. There is so much to do. I have left out some of the activities, just wanted to show that there is somewhere to go.

Many have asked where is the group in their area?  The administrator of this site will connect you with a person.  I find the Bible Students are all over. I have sisters that I Skype with and share so much. The association is good for all of us.  I find that many of them have others with them in their homes during the hook-ups, so there is association. Now there is an effort to create a data base for different little classes so we can get together at conventions. There is a lot going on. It is a blessing from Jehovah.

It is a blessing that ex-Jehovah witnesses and Bible Students get along so well. There is no one telling you to hate and label our brothers.

The Bible Students have proved you do not have to have an organization with a governing body and a lot of manmade rules. Truth does not change when it gets brighter.  I have been amazed at the talks given by the different Brothers. They are not afraid to read the whole scripture. An effort is made not to take scriptures out of context just to prove a point. Someone can ask for an explanation without fear of reprisal. There are other writings in the bookroom. I am reading the series of books by “John Class”. His version of what he thinks the resurrection of the different generations will be like. It is fiction based on the Bible.

The Elders both of the Bible Students and the ones on the various hook-ups are Shepherds, not task masters. You are your own master of obedience to the father. You can make decisions that affect your family, health, special days, even whether you partake or not. The governing body in my opinion does not really have the correct understanding on Memorial according to the Bible and what Jesus actually says to do, and who should do it.

There is a another relatively new site that consists of Jehovah Witness elders and others, I call it a sister site. www.jwstruggle.com Those Brothers are still attending and trying to help others that have jumped in the water, some without a life boat. There is so much available now. Houses are empty  when you call on them now, everyone works so the internet and social networks have really been the way to reach more people. I found this link on that site and it is one many might want to read. The writer touches the heart. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204249/1/An-Open-letter-to-the-Governing-Body-of-Jehovahs-Witnesses-Elders-Ex-Elders.

Many years ago I would have been on my own, but since the big knowledge boom I can connect with others of like faith. No wonder they say don’t go on the internet. You just might find a way to Jesus.

This is just my story, my journey. It may not work for everyone in the same way. But at least it is a start. Thank you for reading this. Come join with us and see for yourself.

18 comments to My Story – Part 2 – A New Hope (Outside of the JW Organization)

  • just stay sweet and good

    Just a commentary on Daniel 3:16-18 If I absolutely will not pledge alliegence to anybody or any entity, or any image or flag, other than Jehovah God Almighty the ruler of this universe why would I pledge alliegence to an organization?

    “Remember, too, that you made your dedication to Jehovah God himself, not to a work. a cause, other humans, or an organization.” What Does The Bible Really Teach? book published 2005 Page 183

  • THIS SOUNDS VERY STRANGE TO ME
    I must say that your conclusions is not ok in my view. You write:
    “Grieving takes time, it is a process. I could not personally skip a step. It has been one (1) year five (5) months. I also feel Jesus had to humble me and make me rely on him and Jehovah before he could use me for whatever purpose he has in mind. I am still a work in progress. I am learning obedience now.” End of quote.
    You are learning “obidience” now! This sounds very strange to me. Have you not learned enough obedience until now? I propose you generate/make a new life where YOU decide what you yourself will prefer. Be careful not to deceive yourself!
    In my view, Jesus is just a way to escape from the problems. To solve the problems, you need not a new faith, a new Church, but something you can build your future on: knowledge about the sect you escaped!
    But I understand you in a way.
    Up You live in an American reality with its strong American religiosity. But I think it is a wrong solution you search for! See the world as it is: with realism. Learn something new that challenges you. Read books. Read church history. Or read my book, Judgment Day Must Wait. Jehovah’s Witnesses – A sect Between Idealism and Deceit. Purchase it on Amazon.com. I think my book will help you to get to grips with it all. Good luck. Very Best, Poul Bregninge, Denmark.
    Please see Amazon.com http://tinyurl.com/kbsdhcb, where the book is now available. Poul’s website: http://judgmentdaymustwait.com/ See also: http://www.ad1914.com/ Here you can read a little part of My story as a JW.

    • Jacqueline

      Poul Bregninge, hello and thanks for commenting. I want to apologize for taking so long to answer it was a 14 hour travel day for me. I stopped to visit with Barbara Anderson and family so it made it a delightful trip.
      My story is my first years coming out and for me thaty is a true story. You are probably not aware of what was happening in my life. Each person takes their path to get out. What worked for me might not appeal to another person, it is just a true story and we tell our stories here to heal.
      I am on a whole different level now. I will check your story out tomorrow as it is very late here in the states and I am exhausted.
      If you knew how much I read other books, writings and literature you would say take a break. I have always been known as a readaholic but I will check your site out as will others once they see your post.
      I would hope they will come back to this site to converse with you so all can see however. We have 5,000-6000 on the site per month.
      Tell me how did you find this site. How long were you a witness?(I know it is in your story). Were you a born in or converted from some other religion?
      I have made a new life for myself, perhaps I should update my story now. But most are just coming out so that is why it might be useful for them to see how another person handled it. I just saw a lot of books that Richard Rawe had before he died and I will call Barbara but I think one has your book title or it might be your book. Will check. My knowledge of the witnesses is very deep, probably more than I say on this site. Jeff, Barbara and myself, others know probably more than you think now about who the witnesses are. I will check out your site and come back here to comment. You take care Poul and may you be blessed as you spread the word. Sincerely Jacqueline.

    • Stanley L

      Greetings Poul:

      I looked at your links and the book looks interesting as it appears you write about the history of the Witnesses, possibly going back to Russell and the Bible Students. As one of the historians in the movement I’m always interested in things like that but the book is a little more than I can afford because I’m disabled. Still, it would be nice to see you around as a regular contributor to our comments here.

      My reasons for leaving the Witnesses are a bit complicated, but mainly it was because of what I saw as a kind of idolatry built around both the Organization and the Governing Body under the guise of the “Faithful and Discrete Slave.”. It had become clear to me that they meant themselves instead of the anointed class as a whole, though they didn’t embrace that as a teaching for another nine years. Their were other reasons, and you’ll find some of them if you peruse my name and the avatar Dupin, who is me, around here.

      What I did when I left was to look for CTR’s writings online, like many JWs contemplating leaving do, and found them and the Bible Students themselves as an extra bonus. So I became a Bible Student and a thorn in the side of the Society on a now defunct Bible Student site for years. I’m not so much that thorn these days as I used to be. The fact is I’ve change for the better among my brethren. Though, I still do maintain a presence on this site and a forum on Facebook where I make use of my knowledge to Defend the pastor when need be and the Bible Students and our teachings as well.

      The Bible Students are movement, friend, not a sect. Russell loathed sects for the controlling entities they are. So he always resisted the tendency towards sectarian organization and practices. So movement sprang up around both his and the Watch Tower’s teachings. That was why so many found it so easy to leave in 1909 over the Three Covenants controversy and later after Rutherford took control of the Watch Tower and started turning it to his own ends. The Bible Students still maintain that movement structure centered around completely autonomous congregations, called “ecclesia,” to this day.

      So neither Jacqueline nor myself went from one sect to another. We found a movement much like the first century Christians, who value personal autonomy and liberty in Christ and promote the healing virtue of character building, something the Apostles promoted in their day. We reach out to Witnesses seeking answers through this site, though, sometimes it means engaging in confrontational exchanges with JW apologists who come here because we have found peace and truth and desire that any Jehovah our loving God is calling to find that peace through truth as well.

      Once aging, pull up a chair and stick around. Tell us your story and let’s talk about the history of both the Bible Students and the Witnesses if you will. Please be warns that there are some things in the history of the Rutherford Bible Students/Jehovah’s Witnesses I don’t generally discuss because even truth can become evil speaking if used in a bad spirit. And talk to us about our teachings if you like. You are very welcome here in the spirit of inquiry and search for truth if you like.

  • Hello dear Christian Brothers and Sisters.I believe that as the Kingdom kicks in(like birth pangs) the bright shining will enlighten all(including the jw governing body)
    Awaiting the Kingdom,
    yours in Christ,phil

    • Peter K. (admin)

      Hi Phil – I don’t think the kingdom can come too soon for any of us. Dan 7:14, 27 “14 Then to Him [Christ] was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That ALL peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him… His kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, And all dominions shall serve and obey Him.” NKJV

  • Elisabeth

    Hello to all! Long story short: I was brought up a Witness. My grandfather has many of the older books from the Pastor’s time and they were not thrown out, yet never read.The family followed along with the Rutherford bloodless “coup.” I had become disillusioned over the same issues that bother us all, and had dissasociated myself, but also never sent a letter.I did recall proudly telling the elders years ago I had some of the old books, and being stongly discouraged from reading them because they were “written in Victorian English, too difficult to understand, and besides there had been so much ‘new light.'” I found the BS in Texas and finally experience the “seasons of refreshing” I had been promised but never found at the KH! Have been happy ever since and not mentally tormented as I was all the years of my involvement with them. Blessings to all you searchers,you will find!

    • Jacqueline

      Hi Elisabeth, Good for you. I am so happy myself now. Are you coming to the Olde Harvest Conv. 9/17-18? I will be there. If so we can get together. Isn’t this nice? Also did you see the Shuning Article, most are missing it. Do you have any family opposition? Mine has leveled out a great bit.

  • Tulsigirl

    Jacqueline, your story has really touched me. I had no real problems with being a JW. I will admit I disassociated myself due to sinful conduct I chose to pursue. But after about 2 years, I have been searching. I need my spiritual life and to reconnect with Jehovah. With my “reawakening” I began to realize I took exception with several of the teachings I had learned as a JW. To start with, that Jehovah would not hear my prayers unless I rejoined the organization. It was very hard to start praying again. But once I did, I believe Jehovah’s spirit directed me to the Bible Students. I found several sights and was able to contact a group (there are none around where I live in Tulsa, OK). I now call in about once or twice a week to join in bible study. I had also tried to go to Christendom churches, but beliefs like the Trinity and praying to Jesus as GOD, were reprehensible to me. I just today found this site and I’m really excited. I’ve glanced at a couple of the links you suggested, but I keep coming back here. There is so much to explore. I’d like to know more about the “meetings” you discussed in the article. I’d like to see if I could join now and again.
    I hope this isn’t too long. Thank you for your encouragement. May Jehovah’s blessings continue with you and yours.

  • mrs. fader

    Hi,Jacqueline,wonderful article you wrote.It has been the same for me.I love the things I’m learning,the best part is I’m not afraid any more.Every one isn’t going to die like we were told when we were JW,s.Remember that awful teachings.Our famileys and every one elce will learn about Jehovah.Life is better now.You are a dear person.Thanks for every thing…talk soon.Pat

  • Peter K. (admin)

    Bro. Innocent – I have been in frequent contact with the Bible Students Committee for Africa in regard to your needs. Bro. Bill is working diligently on getting you needed study materials. Once the shipping issue is worked out and he finds a way to ship you material without it getting misdirected, that committee will be able to supply you and all the members of your congregation with the needed study materials. Please keep working with him. You have my direct email address if you want to communicate further.

  • JJ

    Thank you Jacqueline for the hard work and the love that you show. We don’t have to fear MAN, only God and Christ. If we serve them to the best of our ability then our conscience can be at ease. There are so many brothers and sisters, a “great cloud of witnesses” that can be of help and encouragement to us. These can be found among the Bible Students, former and even current JWs, and many others that are sincere followers of Christ.

  • Kimberly

    Dear Jacqeline,

    Hey there. Did you receive my e-mail? I sent one to you about a week ago. Please let me know if my name and e-mail look familiar. If not, I’ll send again.

    Many tks,
    Kimberly

    • Jacqueline

      Kimberly send it again. I won’t print that comment if you send it on the ask Jacqueline page. It is moderated, I will just look at the email address but I won’t print the comment. I am going to check and see if I missed it before. Also I have a kimberlyn in my email contact. waiting on your reply Bye

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